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Old 05-29-2014, 05:52 AM
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Default Simon & Patrick Songsmith A3T /Seagull Entourage Rustic

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research for my mate ....his english ain't so good
Simon & Patrick Songsmith A3T solid sikta top
and
Seagull Entourage Rustic solid cedar plus seagull gigbag
both same price both dreadnougt
Anyone tried these...
anyone any sound-clips....youtube doesn't have much

ps can't try guitars unfortunately

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Old 05-29-2014, 06:00 AM
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I have had the Seagull for a year and love it. Easy to play, mellow tone.
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To me, the cedar topped Seagull has a better tone.
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Old 05-29-2014, 06:24 AM
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The Entourage Rustic… in a heartbeat. I like its warmth. It's my favorite Seagull.
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Old 05-29-2014, 06:47 AM
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Love my Entourage Mini Jumbo!
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:38 AM
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Both guitars are pretty much identical other than the sitka vs cedar tops. But, that alone will make a substantial difference in the tone.

Certainly the Seagull Entourage Rustic has a bigger following than the Simon & Patrick simply because there are so many more of them available. I've seldom if ever had anyone say they didn't love their Seagull Entourage Rustic.

You don't mention if the Seagull has electronics, so I'll assume it doesn't.

The built in electronics in the S&P are worth $100+, so that's a consideration worth thinking about.

The Seagull gig bag is worth maybe $40.

Hope this helps ...
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thanks, for the comments... the seagull has no electronics,,,the S&P is cheap as it's a demo---been in the shop approx 1 year...just hope they've kept humidity ok...as i say he can't get to see them..
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Old 05-29-2014, 03:48 PM
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Love my Entourage Mini Jumbo!
I'll second this statement!!
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Old 05-29-2014, 06:24 PM
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Don't know much about the S&P, but will say the Seagull necks always felt a bit too "chubby" for my taste. Maybe that won't matter to your mate, but offering my 2 cents worth.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:10 PM
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I've owned both S&Ps and Seagulls. While I have a preference for the straighter string pull headstock on the Seagull, I'm happy playing either one (assuming I get to test the particular sample.)
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My mate reang the shop today ...apparently the S&P has a solid CEDAR top contrary to S&P spec sheet on the S&P website!!!!!? I told him all along that it would be sikta
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Old 05-30-2014, 10:22 AM
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It's a toss-up who to trust. You've probably already seen this, but here's a link to the current specs for Simon & Patrick acoustics.
http://www.simonandpatrick.com/specs.htm
Currently (according to S&P) the Songsmith models are spruce top.

Of course this does not rule out the possibility that they were cedar in earlier iterations.

It also doesn't take into consideration that Godin is notoriously bad regarding consistency and accuracy on their web site information.

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My mate reang the shop today ...apparently the S&P has a solid CEDAR top contrary to S&P spec sheet on the S&P website!!!!!? I told him all along that it would be sikta
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