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Old 08-01-2013, 05:25 AM
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Default This is what I love and hate about Rosewood

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_v4w__YvUY

Rich, poweful, overtone rich, but also very metallic sounding especially on the unwound strings.

Does anyone else feel like this about Rosewood back & sides?
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:34 AM
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Rich, poweful, overtone rich, but also very metallic sounding especially on the unwound strings.

Does anyone else feel like this about Rosewood back & sides?
All depends on the guitar. My Martin, Collings and Santa Cruz sound nothing alike. Three very distinct sounds. All 3 rosewood. Which why I have them. Now that search of an all Hog ... ummm!
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:38 AM
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I've been impressed by the 00 1929 Collings all hog, maybe check that one out?
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Old 08-01-2013, 06:03 AM
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Hi

If I'm not mistaken his Lakewood has macassar ebony back and sides

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Old 08-01-2013, 06:19 AM
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Rich, poweful, overtone rich, but also very metallic sounding especially on the unwound strings.
Does anyone else feel like this about Rosewood back & sides?
Eh - is'nt it a ‘Lakewood A48CP’ top European spruce and back/side Macasaar ebony.

have you played this model in person ?

as dwstout says - "All depends on the guitar."

I'd suggest the recording / Micing has a lot to do with the sound on the video.

I play a Bourgeois Rwood / spruce - very mellow - of course it's played in - dont forget some 'new' guitars can sound a bit 'edgy'.

Just things to consider
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Old 08-01-2013, 06:41 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_v4w__YvUY

Rich, poweful, overtone rich, but also very metallic sounding especially on the unwound strings.

Does anyone else feel like this about Rosewood back & sides?
No, and you're condemning all rosewood in one statement and using one video??

Every guitar I own has different tone woods, but that being said, the build is far more important, especially the bracing, the woods are the spice, and any wood can be made to sound pretty good or pretty bad.

Plus the top has more influence than the back and side woods, and there are many different rosewoods, rosewood done well is wonderful..............
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:15 AM
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Eh - is'nt it a ‘Lakewood A48CP’ top European spruce and back/side Macasaar ebony.

have you played this model in person ?

as dwstout says - "All depends on the guitar."

I'd suggest the recording / Micing has a lot to do with the sound on the video.

I play a Bourgeois Rwood / spruce - very mellow - of course it's played in - dont forget some 'new' guitars can sound a bit 'edgy'.

Just things to consider
Actually, I'm pretty sure that's a different guitar. According to the Lakewood website, it says that that specific one with macassar ebony has no binding on the headstock or neck and a rosette with two woods, pretty sure that's the guitar he plays with a Sunrise in it. The one in the video seems to be a production model of his signature guitar, so I would guess it does have rosewood sides and back.

But it definitely sounds good either way
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:18 AM
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Rosewood guitars - from a currant thread -
s this a Martin OM-42? Amazing tone!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoSn2Y-b6wI

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It is a Martin 000-42 MEC, (Carpathian over Madagascar Rosewood, Clapton). . That video doesn't do them justice, they sound fantastic............Some shots of mine....
the microphones look very much like a Stereo Set of Neumann U87's which cost $6,500 - $7,000.

I don't consider this recording of this guitar to be very good in terms of 'record quality' - just goes to show you need to play guitars in person.

Though they do record the 'crack' from the fire well - mic placement ?
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:20 AM
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The metallic sound is in no small part due to the player's use of a thumbpick, probably a heavy one. My rosewood b & s Taylor BTO GC 12 fret is rich, dark, warm and mellow with no metallic twang even when plectrumed (add that to your dictionary)
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:31 AM
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Rich, poweful, overtone rich, but also very metallic sounding especially on the unwound strings.

Does anyone else feel like this about Rosewood back & sides?
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:59 AM
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I would not blame the tonewood, nor necessarily the model guitar. It could simply be player, pick or string choice. I actually find the mids of the guitar sound quite nice, but the high strings do sound a bit brassy.

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Old 08-01-2013, 10:17 AM
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in many descriptions of tonewoods that i have read there are quite a few that elude to the fact that Rosewood offers a "reverby" or "metallic" character. and this can be true in some instances as i've played quite a few that do, indeed, feature a metallic high end. but, personally, i own two Rosewood guitars and neither of them are metallic sounding in the high end at all. so, all in all, i'd say it depends on the guitar/builder (and also on the player's playing style).

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Old 08-01-2013, 10:32 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_v4w__YvUY

Rich, poweful, overtone rich, but also very metallic sounding especially on the unwound strings.

Does anyone else feel like this about Rosewood back & sides?
It sounds okay to me, though I agree, the guitar is a little on the bright sound. It could be string choice, it could be the particular guitar. His playing style is similar to mine and I have guitars that would sound like that with the wrong strings on them. The metallic sound of that Lakewood guitar is actually fairly tame compared to the metallic sound that came from a Taylor GS8 (spruce/EIR) I once had. I could never quite mellow it out enough and finally got rid of it.

As others have commented, rosewood does not have to sound quite like that and string choice can make a huge difference. So can the choice of guitar, of course.

We all seem to have a different sound in our heads that we strive to achieve. Your sound is not likely to match up with mine. Fortunately, there are all kinds of ways to get what you want these days.

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Old 08-01-2013, 12:43 PM
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I believe that's what Lakewoods sound like mostly, atleast the spruce/tropical hardwood ones. I have one with Engelmann/BRW. I like bright guitars generally, so it's mostly okay with me, though I have usually swapped out 12s for 13s in light gauge sets which helps somewhat.
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