The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 12-07-2009, 04:35 PM
Rosco NZ Rosco NZ is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 535
Red face Sound Ports

I have read about a few acoustic guitars lately that have sound ports built in.
Are they really necessary and do they work? It seems a bit incongruous to me to cut holes in the body of a guitar. Does it spoil the look of a fine piece of wood with holes cut in it? What is the general feeling about this?

Rosco
__________________
Seagull Artist Studio
Yamaha LLX16
Yamaha NCX FM
Martin GPCPA2
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-07-2009, 04:43 PM
Howard Emerson Howard Emerson is offline
AGF Sponsor
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Huntington Station, New York
Posts: 7,621
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosco NZ View Post
I have read about a few acoustic guitars lately that have sound ports built in.
Are they really necessary and do they work? It seems a bit incongruous to me to cut holes in the body of a guitar. Does it spoil the look of a fine piece of wood with holes cut in it? What is the general feeling about this?

Rosco
Hi Rosco,
If you don't like the way they look then they've spoiled the guitar for you, simple.

Do they work? Absolutely.

Do you need them?

I can't say, of course, but if you have the opportunity to play a guitar guitar that has them, you may get hooked on them from the aspect of having the sound aimed at your ear.

Regards,
Howard
http://www.howardemerson.com/
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-07-2009, 05:25 PM
ljguitar's Avatar
ljguitar ljguitar is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: wyoming
Posts: 42,625
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosco NZ View Post
...Does it spoil the look of a fine piece of wood with holes cut in it?
Hi Roscoe…
Depends on the piece of wood and who is doing the cutting...

Two of mine...




__________________

Baby #1.1
Baby #1.2
Baby #02
Baby #03
Baby #04
Baby #05

Larry's songs...

…Just because you've argued someone into silence doesn't mean you have convinced them…
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-07-2009, 05:30 PM
Howard Klepper Howard Klepper is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Earthly Paradise of Northern California
Posts: 6,637
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosco NZ View Post
. . .
(1)Are they really necessary and (2)do they work? . . . (3)Does it spoil the look of a fine piece of wood with holes cut in it? (4)What is the general feeling about this?

Rosco
1. no
2. yes
3. matter of taste
4. we like
__________________
"Still a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest."
--Paul Simon
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-07-2009, 09:56 PM
ironman187 ironman187 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In your head
Posts: 1,068
Default

I think it's a neat concept, when I finally get a chance to build a guitar, I will probably incorporate a side sound hole into the design so I can actually hear myself during jams. As far as I can tell, they don't really change the tone of your guitar, so other than aesthetics (which I'm not super big on) they don't seem to have a drawback.
__________________
Instruments I own.
2004 Martin DC16 GTE Custom (1 & 13/16" nut) w/ Fishman Prefix Stereo Onboard Blender
1999 BC Rich Warlock N.J. Series (import)
2009 Lanikai LU21
Dunlop shaker egg
Alesis DM10 Pro
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-07-2009, 11:33 PM
patticake's Avatar
patticake patticake is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,669
Default

i liked the idea of sound ports. then i got to play a guitar that had one, and wow! it gives the player SO much more of the sound then one gets without them. an entirely other dimension. i've played several more guitars with sound ports since, and i really like 'em.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-08-2009, 12:00 AM
dgrolem dgrolem is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: San Mateo, CA
Posts: 182
Default

I had the opportunity to play a Batson. It has what I consider and absolutely HUGE port without a sound hole int he top. The experience was very... disturbing. Pop a hard strum and I could literally feel the breeze from the port. Nice sound, but others have reported that the listener gets gipped in the equation.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-08-2009, 01:09 AM
ljguitar's Avatar
ljguitar ljguitar is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: wyoming
Posts: 42,625
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dgrolem View Post
...Nice sound, but others have reported that the listener gets gipped in the equation.
Hi dgrolem…
Will you please explain what that means? I didn't understand it...

__________________

Baby #1.1
Baby #1.2
Baby #02
Baby #03
Baby #04
Baby #05

Larry's songs...

…Just because you've argued someone into silence doesn't mean you have convinced them…
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-08-2009, 04:39 AM
Rosco NZ Rosco NZ is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 535
Red face

Wow, I did not realize that they were so popular. I have never seen or heard one myself, but Larry, your two do look nicely done and I can only imagine what they sound like.

Rosco
__________________
Seagull Artist Studio
Yamaha LLX16
Yamaha NCX FM
Martin GPCPA2
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-08-2009, 05:28 AM
Howard Emerson Howard Emerson is offline
AGF Sponsor
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Huntington Station, New York
Posts: 7,621
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dgrolem View Post
I had the opportunity to play a Batson. It has what I consider and absolutely HUGE port without a sound hole int he top. The experience was very... disturbing. Pop a hard strum and I could literally feel the breeze from the port. Nice sound, but others have reported that the listener gets gipped in the equation.
"Gypped" in the equation?

Nonsense. It does not change the sound out in front.

Furthermore if the player's experience is more enjoyable it will certainly be that much more enjoyable to the listener.

HE
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-08-2009, 05:32 AM
Howard Emerson Howard Emerson is offline
AGF Sponsor
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Huntington Station, New York
Posts: 7,621
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosco NZ View Post
Wow, I did not realize that they were so popular. I have never seen or heard one myself, but Larry, your two do look nicely done and I can only imagine what they sound like.

Rosco
Hi Rosco,
My friend, John Monteleone, was one of the first people to use sound ports:

http://www.monteleone.net/quattroport.html

He has made several where there are stainless steel sliding doors on all of the ports, including the front!

Enjoy!

Howard
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-08-2009, 10:51 AM
Howard Klepper Howard Klepper is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Earthly Paradise of Northern California
Posts: 6,637
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Howard Emerson View Post
"Gypped" in the equation?

Nonsense. It does not change the sound out in front.

Furthermore if the player's experience is more enjoyable it will certainly be that much more enjoyable to the listener.

HE
He's talking about a Batson. Different animal.
__________________
"Still a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest."
--Paul Simon
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-08-2009, 11:00 AM
Ryan Alexander Ryan Alexander is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 812
Default

I am a huge fan of soundports - I'd add one on any future custom orders without hesitation.

Here is my Cornerstone Zion:

__________________
Bown OM
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-08-2009, 11:03 AM
Howard Emerson Howard Emerson is offline
AGF Sponsor
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Huntington Station, New York
Posts: 7,621
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Howard Klepper View Post
He's talking about a Batson. Different animal.
Oh............

Okay then, but I'm still willing to bet that as long as a guitar has a place for the air to move in and out of, that the audience would not know except by looking, that the hole is not in the front.

HE
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-08-2009, 11:07 AM
Matt Mustapick Matt Mustapick is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 2,002
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Howard Emerson View Post
Oh............

Okay then, but I'm still willing to bet that as long as a guitar has a place for the air to move in and out of, that the audience would not know except by looking, that the hole is not in the front.

HE
I've played and heard a ported guitar with no soundhole in the front. It's a dramatically different animal. If the audience couldn't see they'd be looking for the door for the room with the guitar in it.

Last edited by Matt Mustapick; 12-08-2009 at 12:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion






All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=