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Nope, not derogatory at all. When learning guitar, they are the foundation upon which learning simple progressions is built. Depends on which cowboy you are referencing when it comes to barres. It's a description, not a set of rules. And I know plenty of cowboys who use Am and Em chords (and a shortcut fingering for Bm or F). Thanks for the folk/jazz reminder… |
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I'd put in more in the class of "colorful expression" than clearly or universally derogatory. It means the most common chords in the first position, almost always including some open strings.
It derives from a hugely popular 20th century musical style, the singing cowboy. If you liked them (many did) it can be endearing, and it may mean to you "simple, relaxed nuthin' fancy playing." If you don't like them, or are a musical snob who believes that what's difficult and unusual is the same as what has merit, then yes, you can sneer when you say it. Even if you don't know Gene Autry from Tex Ritter, when one hears a nice accompaniment with "cowboy chords" it may effectively work to draw you in to the song in a certain way, because we've all heard those chords, they have associations. Objectively, they're neither good nor bad. I suppose one can make an objective argument that more players or everyone should learn and use other chord forms, but that makes it even a more useful term because you might need to say "no, don't voice that C to G up at the 7th fret, just play the cowboy chords..." See also the common forms of the "three chord trick" where a song's harmonic cadence is uncomplicated and may even work because you know what the next chord will be. Just like a song with cowboy chords it may work quite well. All music works by combining the expected with the unexpected.
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Are they exciting to play? Not really. (Unless they're Ranger Doug Cowboy Chords)
Have literally thousands of wonderful songs been written using them and only them? Absolutely. It's ALL ABOUT serving the music. Sometimes a big old G chord--maybe the first chord you ever learned--is the RIGHT chord. And when it is, nothing else will do. As for the folk/jazz joke, I always heard that one as rock/jazz. I consider the folkies to be kindred spirits to us jazz guys, in the sense of the group often outnumbering the audience |
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Here is one fellow who puts cowboy chords to good use:
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While my repetoir is not limited to cowboy chords, I've gotta say that playing lower on the neck showcases the tone of my guitars, especially the Martins. There are certain players who think it's cool to spend their days entirely above the fifth fret, but some of those fellows end up being squeeky and anoying.
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I don't consider it derogatory, just shorthand to easily describe play using open strings and first position chord shapes. Lots of great music has been made this way. I would rather listen to great songs played well with cowboy chords than the other option.......
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In my opinion, it's all about the song/music/sound. If simple sounds best why complicate it? On the other hand, if a chord in another position/inversion sounds better then play it.
On an acoustic guitar I try to use some open strings even when playing up the neck, for example, when playing in the key of E I'll generally use the "open chord concept" where I let the B and e strings ring open on every chord as I'm playing up the neck. These chords are just as simple as "cowboy chords" but they're all over the neck. Sometimes I'll have to use a barre chord though to get the more correct major or minor triad sound as opposed to having those open notes ring out. It all comes down to what sounds and works best for you. Play what sounds good to you and makes you happy. Don't worry about "chord snobs" |
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I am a cowboy chord player. I wear it proudly. I don't care what anyone thinks about my playing. I'm happy where I'm at. I don't measure my own self worth as a guitar player (or anything else, for that matter) by what others think, say, feel or do. And THAT, my friends, is the key to happiness!
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I’ve lived outside and around Philadelphia my entire life. I don’t have a 10 gallon hat or a six shooter and have never ridden a horse. Heck, I only like cows medium rare with a nice red.
Call ‘em what you will...I play ‘em, I love ‘em and so do the people I’m playing for! Cowboy on! |
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I personally have zero respect for any advanced player that in anyway demeans a lesser player.
How soon we forget. Just remember, no matter how good you think you are, there are many more that laugh at you when you are not looking. If you think not, wake up. I very clearly recall when I was 27 years old, I wanted to take up guitar from when I was younger. I went to a local music shop that gave beginners lessons, and brush up lessons. The guy ( in his Late Teens ) gave me a few sheets of stuff to practice, he left the room and I could hear him in the other room. He commented; "Why would someone his age want to take up guitar ?" I picked up the papers, walked to his office, tossed the papers on his desk and said; "Good question, I have no idea why I chose you as my teacher." Ed
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Well, its kind of an odd thing.
How many of us have seen someone get tons of "likes" on facebook for a video of a song sung well with simple chords played and read the comments that said "great playing" and wondered what video they watched? Or seen someone play a good tune, but have to add that 7 fret stretch which many are born without and wonder what was so important about that one note? Most of us, if not all, are looking for confirmation that we are good or at least improving to a good level ( whatever that may be). Some need some kind of confimation that they are better than someone else in order to feel as though they are good. I think that is when you will see or hear the term used in a derogatory manner. I think the true measure of a guitar being played is when you just listen (and not look). Did you enjoy the song? Fine, then who cares what chords were used. (p.s. you can play 9th and 11th chords in the 1st position)
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Arthritis prevents me from playing barre chords.
I make the most of open chords with sliding and muting. I play a version of Carter/Boom Chick/flatpick with lots of runs and walk ups and downs. Folks seem to like it. |