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Judging by the various definitions of "mint", the word requires defining by anyone choosing to use it. Otherwise, big risk of a complicated transaction.
Might a 20 year old guitar be described as mint? Interestingly, James Goodall described my 2003 Goodall as mint when I brought it to him for the K&K Mini install. |
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Whatever...it isn't for sell it anyway so...
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I have a 1967 D28 in excellent shape but its not worth a third of what you were quoted.
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Except for that ding it looks brand new. Any guitar over 40 years old looking new is priceless...
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What does Mint mean?
"Mint" for guitars in my book as a record collector means the same thing it means in the vinyl world: a record that has never been opened and has no wear. The moment the shrink wrap is opened, it's no longer mint.
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If it has a ding, it's not mint by definition. An otherwise perfect overall condition doesn't make up for a ding in my opinion.
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Never said it was mint... Read it...
Near mint! Not mint... About appraisal... Most are retail. When you take ANYTHING to pawn or rings to a jewler or guitars to music store...you NEVER get what it's worth or what you want. You're lucky to get 30% OP asked for concepts (definitions)and interpretation... Not documentation... |
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Depending on the age of the guitar. A 30 year old guitar, for example, in perfect condition except for natural discoloration of the binding could still be described as mint IMO.
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The yellowed binding surely is different from how it first left the shop, making the guitar not identical to its original state. Whether that matters to a buyer is another story. I would instead call it pristine and never used, but "mint" to me has a higher standard that wouldn't allow for cosmetic changes from how it was originally, any more than permitting changes caused by use.
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This. And age has nothing to do with it.
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Maybe that's when it becomes "Minty" instead of Mint.
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Yeah. And the point system - 9.9 vs 10- too subjective- no universal guide. For me, personally, "dead mint" and "minty" are a turn off. Even if the guitar is in perfectly immaculate condition, those subjective superlatives make me cringe.
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Correct, the Goodall is not for sale.
My point was that a very well respected luthier used the word "mint" to describe a 14 year old guitar that he built. |
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Yes, if it is otherwise unchanged from its original state.
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Tico's definition in the second post is correct. The term is frequently misused. In other markets, such as the rare book trade, "mint" is virtually never used by serious dealers because even the simple business of purchasing and storing a book creates small by real degradation. "Virtually unplayed" is the term that most users of "mint" should use. Some cop out with the ridiculous "minty." A old guitar could conceivably be mint if left cased since purchase, which has probably never happened in human history, given what guitars are for. Newer ones... maybe. Personally, I wish people would not use the term, and at the same time, needing a "mint" guitar seems weird to me to begin with. I mean -- you're supposed to play them.
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