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Old 03-07-2018, 08:43 AM
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Bill Collings once told me that pearl borders DO affect tone.

I'll go with what he said.
Bill Warmouth of Artisan Guitars told me the same thing. He said he was told by Richard Hoover that the border material affects the voice.
Bill used the word "shimmer" and "Crystal".
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I think Bling makes an instrument sound worse, but thats just me, I can't prove it!
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Bill Warmouth of Artisan Guitars told me the same thing. He said he was told by Richard Hoover that the border material affects the voice.
Bill used the word "shimmer" and "Glassy".
Coincidence that the visual and tonal descriptions are interchangeable?
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Bill Warmouth of Artisan Guitars told me the same thing. He said he was told by Richard Hoover that the border material affects the voice.
Bill used the word "shimmer" and "Crystal".
I also spoke with Bill at Artisan several years ago and had this same discussion. They were ordering Santa Cruz Dreads with custom herringbone purfling because they felt it may have allowed the top to vibrate more freely.

I now have a Martin Outlaw (Hog/Adi Dread) with Herringbone Purfling trim around the border of the ADI top. I can't attribute all of its amazing tone and sustain to any one factor, but it sounds amazing. To what degree would I attribute the purfling? No clue. But I do tend to trust when people like Bill Collings and Richard Hoover say it makes a difference.
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Old 03-07-2018, 09:41 AM
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Every part of a guitar affects the sound to some degree. Any change, to any part of a guitar will change the sound to some degree. Even the most minor change affects the sound to some tiny degree. The degree of change might not be audible or measurable, but, it would be there. (Just my unscientific opinion)
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Every part of a guitar affects the sound to some degree. Any change, to any part of a guitar will change the sound to some degree. Even the most minor change affects the sound to some tiny degree. The degree of change might not be audible or measurable, but, it would be there. (Just my unscientific opinion)
On one of my guitars, I have ebony pins with abalone dots just for this very reason
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...I think reducing a wife's primary function to cooking and cleaning even just to use as a guitar's function analogy is kind of offensive...
What you got out of my analogy was light years away from my intent. If you think I think a wife's primary function is nothing but cooking and cleaning, you certainly don't know me at all, and you completely missed what I was trying to say. I apologize for not being clearer.

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It's the scalloped bracing on the 40 series that makes them sound better.
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Bling makes the D 45 sound much better just like a red car is always faster.
Obviously, because it’s always the red cars that get the speeding tickets!
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Every part of a guitar affects the sound to some degree. Any change, to any part of a guitar will change the sound to some degree. Even the most minor change affects the sound to some tiny degree. The degree of change might not be audible or measurable, but, it would be there. (Just my unscientific opinion)
I tend to believe this as well... A guitar is a sum of its parts and the hands that built it, and as such, everything matters as a piece of the whole. However, in the grand scheme, few things matter much as independent characteristics as they apply to tone. And that is further complicated by how discerning each individuals hearing is, and how predisposed each of us may be to wanting to hear what we think we should hear. So, since we don’t play inlays, or bridge pins, or nuts & saddles, or pickguards, or tuners, the only thing that matters is how the guitars as a whole sounds to the individual assessing it. All the rest if just fodder for discussion on places such as this...
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Whatsa Taylor '03 600-SPEC look like?
A LTD dread with a Sitka top, maple back and sides with a cocobolo wedge, snowflake fret markers, and a bunch of other bling. My wife called it the most beautiful acoustic guitar she's ever seen. Over the years the top has gone from almost white to a warm honey brown.
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The mother-of-pearl inlays I had done on my fingernails have wonerfully improved the mid-range tones when playing Hound Dog on my Martin.
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I once filled the soundhole of a D-28 with as much abalone as I could carry, and you would not believe the tone! It was so shimmery and glassy that they had to physically remove me from that particular Guitar Center and ask me not to come back.
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Old 03-07-2018, 11:49 AM
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based on 55 years of playing guitars.
And the 1934 D-45 that I received from SCGC versus their standard 34s....If there is such a thing.
Lucky enough to have A/Bd many HD and D 28 and D-45s.
Now this is just IMHO
Very unscientific. One D-45 can sound better or worst than another just because of a slight humidity change. Then there is our powerful mind which is subject to subtle choices due to many things including what is pleasing to our eye.

Only an anechoic chamber before and after the bling would show any difference.
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Old 03-07-2018, 12:37 PM
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Only an anechoic chamber before and after the bling would show any difference.
IMHO... guitars are designed and built so that One Human Being can produce a sound that will evoke emotions from Another Human Being.
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