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Old 12-09-2017, 08:50 PM
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Default Minor beef with Adirondack

I've got a great D-18GE that I've had since 2001. It is the best guitar I've ever owned. I've owned more expensive instruments, but none that is/was better. I've had the first few frets replaced, and the bridge re-set, and that's all it's needed.

Now, my gripe with the addy top is that it hasn't darkened to that nice pumpkin color that I like. The '95 GE I had from the mid 90s darkened pretty quick. It saw a lot more time outside at Bluegrass festivals. I'm thinking it might have been Sitka, but I'm not sure.

I know this is a stupid question, but will this addy top ever darken?
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Old 12-09-2017, 08:57 PM
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I've got a great D-18GE that I've had since 2001. It is the best guitar I've ever owned. I've owned more expensive instruments, but none that is/was better. I've had the first few frets replaced, and the bridge re-set, and that's all it's needed.

Now, my gripe with the addy top is that it hasn't darkened to that nice pumpkin color that I like. The '95 GE I had from the mid 90s darkened pretty quick. It saw a lot more time outside at Bluegrass festivals. I'm thinking it might have been Sitka, but I'm not sure.

I know this is a stupid question, but will this addy top ever darken?
Red spruce will tend to deepen a bit towards yellow over time. It will not get that pumpkin color you're referring to. My '55 D-18 is "pumpkinized" if you will with its sitka top.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:20 PM
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Iíve never seen an adirondack top turn that pumpkin color that wasnít super old. They usually will lean towards gold or yellow like euro Spruce from what Iíve seen.
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Old 12-10-2017, 03:10 AM
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The adi top of my 2008 D-18GE custom turned yellowish slightly orange.
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Old 12-10-2017, 03:20 AM
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Do you keep it stored in a case primarily? If so, that may slow the color transformation process?
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Old 12-10-2017, 06:15 AM
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http://goodallguitars.com/woods/

While it does not discuss patina of aging species of spruce it does give an immediate contrast in aesthetics and tonal description that might be otherwise useful.

I would think that ambient light is the main contributor to the evolving patina of wood. I would also contribute the local atmospheric gas composition relative to the porosity of the finish. All guesswork at best, light exposure I think is key.
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Old 12-10-2017, 08:45 AM
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It's never going to go orange/pumpkin like Sitka. It's just a difference in the woods, and also one of the indicators used to determine spruce type on older guitars.

Here's 1936 red spruce on the left, and much darker 1948 Sitka on the right. The color difference is even more stark in person.

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Old 12-10-2017, 08:50 AM
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Is this a wood or a finish issue?
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Old 12-10-2017, 09:12 AM
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Give it another 120 years or so.

Left is 140+/- yr old Adi and right is 3 yr old Sitka both under shellac.

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