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Old 11-22-2015, 10:59 AM
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Default Yamaha NTX1200R vs Takamine TC135SC

Besides the Takamine's extra frets and "cool tube" technology, are there any other major differences? Specifically, does the Takamine have a deeper (thicker) body?

I'm trying to understand why the Takamine's street price is so much higher than the Yamaha's ($1699 vs $999)? Japan vs China build, perhaps? (I read somewhere that the Yamaha is built in China.)

I'm coming from the world of electric guitars, so I want a 14-fret nylon crossover with the narrower nut. I think I have it down to these two guitars, though I'm still considering the much slimmer Carvin CL450. I had one of those years ago and know that it's the most similar to playing a Stratocaster. I also know that with its super-thin body it doesn't sound that great unplugged, and the unplugged sound is my primary concern. I doubt I will ever play my acoustic through an amp so I don't really care about the electronics.

Speaking of the Carvin's thin body, is there any difference in body thickness between the Takamine TC135SC and TC132SC? I know the more traditional 132 has a wider nut and fewer frets, but are the bodies otherwise the same?
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Old 11-22-2015, 12:00 PM
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Hi, Take a look at the Cordoba Fusion Orchestra CE. It seems to fit what you are looking
for. It is also superior to Yamaha and Takamine. Price is around 799.00. Regards
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PS: It is designed for people that play electric guitars 48mm neck width, radiused, fingerboard, 14 frets, and cutaway with electronics.
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Old 11-22-2015, 04:27 PM
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What's better about the Cordoba? The specs seem to be basically identical.

Do you know whether the Takamine 135's body is the same thickness as the 132's, or is it a slimline, similar to the difference between the Yamaha NTX1200R vs the thicker NCX2000R?
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Old 11-22-2015, 10:56 PM
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I used to own the Takamine TC132SC. It was a very nice, well-made instrument. I liked it a lot. It's been a few years since I had that one.

I've had four Cordobas (three high-end, and one low-end GK Studio model) and really liked them all.

I'm also a big Yamaha fan (currently owning two Yamaha electrics, a mixing board, studio monitors, and a motorcycle). I wanted to like the Yamaha NTX line, but comparing them directly to the Cordobas that I ended-up owning, the Yamahas just seemed lifeless. Maybe they're built sturdier or something (with heavy bracing). But they just didn't have the lively, explosive feel and tone that I got from the Cordobas. I can't compare the Cordobas directly to the Takamine though, because it's been so long since I owned it. My gut feeling is that I'd still choose the Cordobas if I A/B'd them to the Takamine. But that's for me and my tastes. I prefer the snap and punch of flamenco-oriented guitars to the mellow tone of guitars more aimed at classical or jazz.
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Old 11-23-2015, 05:20 AM
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What's better about the Cordoba? The specs seem to be basically identical.

Do you know whether the Takamine 135's body is the same thickness as the 132's, or is it a slimline, similar to the difference between the Yamaha NTX1200R vs the thicker NCX2000R?
The Cordoba has a truss rod which helps to adjust the action. Regards
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Old 11-23-2015, 09:13 AM
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Norman2, the Takamine TC135SC also has a two-way-adjustable truss rod. Otherwise, the only differences I can see between the Cordoba and the Takamine are the Takamine's extra frets, "cool tube" technology, solid sides and back vs laminate for the Cordoba, and Japan vs China build.
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Old 11-23-2015, 09:30 AM
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Hi, Some people like brunettes and some people like blondes. I happen to
prefer the Cordoba. Regards
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PS: I hope he gets the one he really likes. That is the most important factor
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Old 11-23-2015, 06:31 PM
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Love my cordoba! Not sure I would buy tak or yam! Played both and prefer what I bought which is a flamenco with low action and great sound!
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Old 11-26-2015, 06:41 AM
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To go back to your original question, which did not include Cordoba, the Tak and the Yammy are pretty similar in that they both have a long-scale 14-fret neck, 1 7/8" nut width, solid spruce tops and rosewood back and sides. One difference is that the Tak has laminated sides, while the Yamaha is all solid. They both have state-of-the-art pickup systems. I've owned the Tak 135 and played the maple version of the 1200 in GC. The Tak is deeper bodied, which may result in a more pleasing acoustic sound. As you say, however, the Tak is quite a bit more expensive than the Yamaha. I'd guess that your Japan vs. China thought could be right, especially when you consider that Takamine charges much less for its non-Japanese series.
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:45 PM
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I wanted to love the Tak 135, as I really like the steel string Cool Tube models, but was underwhelmed with the amplified sound. It's the prettiest shape of all I checked out, too. The day I went to play a 135, my buddy pulled out this funky used Carvin, thin body, very fast, shallow neck, and beautifully built. To my surprise, I loved the plugged in sound. My CL 450, Koa/Mahogany has been such a useful tool for me. Through my Bose L1, and a reverb pedal, it's perfect for my needs. That said, I am gassing for a more percussive tone, that sounds like a flamenco style build.
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Old 12-04-2015, 05:14 PM
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I bought and played the Yamaha NTX1200R for about a year before gifting it to my son. I bought it for its plugged sound only. I wanted a guitar with steel string-like construction and playability with the sound of nylon strings plugged in. I really have no use for the sound of a plugged steel string guitar. Nylon strings sound so much better to me. I play nylon almost exclusively plugged now. I sometimes mic my classical but otherwise prefer to be plugged (Nady wireless system) for most of my playing. Every now and then I'll play a steel string unplugged and usually in some alternate tuning.

The Yamaha has a fairly narrow nut. I removed and replaced it with a wider one that better suited me. The E strings still had plenty of edge clearance after the new nut was installed. I like the Yamaha electronics. Always have. I have no experience with any other guitar maker's stock on-boards. I don't need to. The NTX1200R's unplugged sound isn't as compelling as a decent low cost classical so I can't say I bought it for that.

Now I play a Yamaha classical with their on-board system (CG-110CE), which I've had for about 8 years, and have again become accustomed to the wider flat board after the NTX1200R went to my son.
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