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Holy crap. Four sets? A virtual treasure trove.
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Well Mark.........just changed my entire thought process looks like a Pina in Gabon, 13 fret.
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Well Mark.........just changed my entire thought process looks like a Pina in Gabon, 13 fret.
I knew this Gabon had our guitar project written all over it! Did you notice that it was the Pina outline I put on the sample?



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What is ebony like, tonewise?
It is said to be somewhat like maple with more sustain and bass. Of course, it's what you do with it that really makes the difference.

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I knew this Gabon had our guitar project written all over it! Did you notice that it was the Pina outline I put on the sample?



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Well it's the first of the month and time to start a new guitar! This is my schedule, starting a new guitar on the first of each month.
I'll likely run a separate build thread on this one so this will just be a peak.
It will be a Greta short scale 13 fret model for TAMCO. It will have curly Honduran Mahogany back and sides with a Sitka top. It will be trimmed in Cocobolo. Today I selected the woods and joined the back. Here is a picture of the wood set:



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Here is the first of the two Penelope nylon crossovers currently in my shop.
I'm making a push today to get this one shipped out to the finisher. It has a cedar top and the Black Walnut I'm using for the back, sides, and neck etc.
has been seasoning since before the American civil war:







If you would like to see more of the in process pictures here is a link to the Flickr album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/283528...7644931537501/

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I got this one wrapped up today and off to the finisher:









I'm thrilled with how this one is coming out! It has a wonderful tap and is very alive.

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That really looks amazing, Mark. Your slotted headstock is such a cool feature on this...
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Beautiful work, as always. A question: Is that second Penelope nylon crossover using that "chocolate" cedar set that you and I were considering?
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Beautiful work, as always. A question: Is that second Penelope nylon crossover using that "chocolate" cedar set that you and I were considering?
Yes, it is. That top rings too well to just sit on a rack!

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It is said to be somewhat like maple with more sustain and bass. Of course, it's what you do with it that really makes the difference.

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I've always thought super dense back sides should pair well with super light or alternative back bracing like your multi X (my moniker) back plan. I'd always be afraid super dense ebony etc would be so reflective as to almost sound like maple, but by placing negligible bracing it may let the wood breathe under vibration.

Maybe the bracing on a rosewood or ebony back is more for crack prevention or wolf note elimination than for any structural reason.

I wouldn't know, as I just theorized that one off the cuff. It seems to make sense though.
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I've always thought super dense back sides should pair well with super light or alternative back bracing like your multi X (my moniker) back plan. I'd always be afraid super dense ebony etc would be so reflective as to almost sound like maple, but by placing negligible bracing it may let the wood breathe under vibration.

Maybe the bracing on a rosewood or ebony back is more for crack prevention or wolf note elimination than for any structural reason.
Yes and yes, the response from a back is controlled by properly thinning and bracing it. And lattice bracing does also help secure backs from cracking. That's why I go through all the extra work and offer this as standard.

I had to qualify that answer with "Of course, it's what you do with it that really makes the difference". The differences in wood species are much more pronounced when guitar braces, tops, and backs are thicknessed to a standard dimension as most manufacturers do. Those differences are greatly reduced when a luthier builds to the wood rather than to a dimension.

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Thanks for elucidating your perspective. Very enlightening.

I'm thinking out loud for others, it's important to distinguish ladder top bracing from lattice back bracing. A pic is worth a 1001 words
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The figuring on the back is spectacular.
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