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Old 09-28-2011, 09:54 AM
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I might have missed it, but will it have a cutaway?
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:45 AM
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Here's information that I received from Rainsong several months ago...

We checked out the Fishman Matrix Infinity system and it looks like you could install that on your HS-OM1100N2 without any problems. Although it is a relatively simple system there are a couple of things to pay attention to.

1) The existing strap button hole is too small for the jack and would need to be drilled larger. Graphite is very strong so a fresh bit is needed. We use diamond coated bits here at the factory.

2) The placement of the nuts and washers on the jack are important and different than on a wood guitar. There is less material at the bottom our guitars for the jack. Once the correct placement has been found we use super glue to secure the inside hex nut in place so it will not come loose over time.

3) The battery bag could be difficult to secure to the graphite. Be sure to scuff the area well for the best bond.

There is a reason we have chosen the electronics we install. I do understand that players may like other electronics. This selection looks like it will work. It is recommended the work be done by an experienced repair technician. Good luck with this.



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Old 09-28-2011, 01:08 PM
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Thanks for that JR.

Mark, this guitar will have a cutaway. Think Taylor 12-Fret but all carbon.
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Old 09-30-2011, 03:35 PM
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Ok folks, we just got the full specs and due date. Please see my post in the marketplace for full details.

http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/f...26#post2779326
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Shortscale as well as 12 fret. I find this much less interesting now that it is a short scale. Have to think about this.
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:18 PM
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Shortscale as well as 12 fret. I find this much less interesting now that it is a short scale. Have to think about this.
Aren't 12 fret guitars normally short scale? Are you bothered by the short scale or that it's a 12 fret?
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Aren't 12 fret guitars normally short scale? Are you bothered by the short scale or that it's a 12 fret?
No. Most (well at least many) 12 frets are standard scale. Martin and Larrivee 12-fret guitars are standard scale for example.

(I find short scale necks a bit cramped that's all)
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:28 AM
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AZ, keep in mind that unlike Martin and Larrivee, Rainsong is using their standard OM body for their 12-fret just like Taylor does. Building a 12-fret long scale on a standard OM body would not position the bridge in the optimum spot. To build a 12-fret long scale like the Martin 000-28VS Rainsong would need to design a new elongated body which would be a huge expense for a limited interest model. Think of this guitar as a carbon version of the Taylor 12-Fret, a guitar that was initially criticized by traditionalists but has now become one of their most popular models. I have not played the Shorty yet but one of the things that make the Taylor 12-Fret so popular is it's compact feel. Feels like a parlor sounds like an OM, I sell a ton of them.
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I'm just a short drive from your store, please send me a pm when you get these in.
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AZ, keep in mind that unlike Martin and Larrivee, Rainsong is using their standard OM body for their 12-fret just like Taylor does. .
Larrivee builds all of their 12-fret instruments on a standard body with a repositioned bridge. Martin extends the upper bout.
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Larrivee builds all of their 12-fret instruments on a standard body with a repositioned bridge. Martin extends the upper bout.
Actually their12-fret dreadnoughts, the SD-50 and SD-60 do in fact have longer and different shape bodies than the 14-fret D-50 and D-60, and their 12-fret 00 is also an elongated body, about the same length as the Martin 00 12-fret. They did a run of 12-fret OM's with standard bodies however which is probably the one you are thinking of.
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Just posted some pictures in the first post.
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Actually their12-fret dreadnoughts, the SD-50 and SD-60 do in fact have longer and different shape bodies than the 14-fret D-50 and D-60, and their 12-fret 00 is also an elongated body, about the same length as the Martin 00 12-fret. They did a run of 12-fret OM's with standard bodies however which is probably the one you are thinking of.
I was thinking about both the OM 12 frets and the LS 12 frets. (l own one of the LS-03 12 fret F-III instruments)

Most folks consider the SD body to be a different body than the D.
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I was thinking about both the OM 12 frets and the LS 12 frets. (l own one of the LS-03 12 fret F-III instruments)

Most folks consider the SD body to be a different body than the D.
I also have one of the LS-03's, which is not the standard L body, it is a shallower and smaller body, basically a 00 with an L shape designed to be a 12 fret from the get go. The SD is a different body, it's a 12 fret dred.

Back to the RS Shorty. I had a chance to play this guitar today and it is a winner! If you like the feel of the Taylor 12 fret you will also like the feel of this guitar. As predicted the tone is much warmer than the standard model which should appeal to first time cf buyers. The hsc is awesome but if, more likely when I get one I'll be dragging it around in a gig bag. This 12 fret will not replace the standard OM but it is a great addition to the line. A big thumbs up for the people over at Rainsong.
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