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08-09-2019, 10:38 AM
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Look up Richard Gilewitz playing “Echoing Wilderness “ on you tube. If that doesn’t make you want a 12, nothing will
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08-09-2019, 01:43 PM
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I wanted and lusted for a 12-string, and finally maybe 4 or 5 years ago got permission from SWMBO to pull the trigger. It was everything I could have hoped for...almost...Guild F512. Superb guitar, but after a bit I found it was just not for me. I practiced fiddle tunes on her, a flatpicking queen! Never played her as she was meant to be played, loved just LOOKING at her, but in the end up on Reverb she went. Some fella got a wicked guitar at a wicked price.
Don't do what I did...the imported Guild 12 string (at the time), a 1512 was in every way as good as the F512, I could have saved myself about 1K, and maybe, just maybe, would still have her... Go Guild, they OWN the 12-string.
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08-09-2019, 01:45 PM
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Hey GG, while I understand all the rest, divorce is not even in the thought-of stage, but I'd like to get an old Triumph...maybe a Bonneville? But, all those oil spots on the driveway?
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08-09-2019, 01:56 PM
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08-09-2019, 02:11 PM
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I got my 12 string before I had kids. This obviously has spared me much consternation.
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08-09-2019, 04:14 PM
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08-09-2019, 04:40 PM
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The street/juke blues singers who wanted "volume" - Leadbelly for one, but many others. The "great folk scare" of the '60s, - "Walk Right In" etc. Then, west coast folk like Tim Buckley with his fat guild. I've played 12 strings since the '70s. Yamaha 12s. I'd buy one, hammer it until the neck bent, then sell and buy another. Then, again in the '90s when I decided I was a blues singer: got me a del 'Arte Leadbelly baritone 12. Then I got a Martin d12-35, nice sound but falling apart. Then a rebuilt '64 D12-20 Still have it, love it. More recently I saw a Harmony H1270 12 string on ebay for an affordable price :" got it. So I have two 12 strings. When I gig, increasingly rare nowadays, I take one of them along. I gets used about 10-15% of the repertoire, but it changes the dynamics. 12 strings won't get popular again until some pop star has a hit with one, but as "pop stars" don't use or need musical instruments any more ... unlikely. Don't care, I love my two :
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08-09-2019, 06:32 PM
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08-09-2019, 09:03 PM
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I bought a 12 string last year but the brand wasn't my first choice. I wanted to see if I really liked playing one again and I did. The first choice was a Guild, and it still is the one I want. The 12 can add a new dimension many many songs and you can see it used in many bands all the time. The only question is......are you ready to really toughen up your fingers? Just kidding, It's not that bad really. Good luck.
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08-09-2019, 09:12 PM
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I bought a 12 string sometime around 1970 or 71. I have owned one ever since. It has never gone out of style for me. I have many songs which I play on a 12 string. I currently own a Guild JF65-12. It will probably be my last one.
As to recommendations; I have mostly bought used. I probably won’t be much help with the newer stuff.
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11-01-2019, 12:34 PM
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As for your sons, remember: "Be nice to your kids. They pick your nursing home." Go get that 12 string! Enjoy. Larry K.
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11-01-2019, 08:13 PM
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I'd look into an Ovation 12 string, excellent guitar choice for Applause or Celebrity models, <$ 500. They also have others if you really have to pay more for one. I ended up with an Applause AE128, can't pass up an opportunity to noodle with it.
http://www.ovationguitars.com/guitar...ngs/AB2412II-4 http://www.ovationguitars.com/guitar...rings/CE4412-5 Just had a question or two though, what would be the potential issues if one were to buy a 12 string guitar, string it up as a standard 6 string and play it that way ? I figure since the Ovation 12 strings are 10-47's for the same 6 EADGBE strings a 6 stringer uses from the factory, the guitar would be undertensioned for total string tension, but that's a truss rod adjustment with unused tuning machines at worst ? Otherwise you have a guitar that's designed for more string tension being set up for lighter string tensions ? Going 12-53 for 6 strings might even offset that total string tension and not need any adjustments what so ever. Time to break out the Excel spreadsheet and do the math comparison from D'Addario string provided data ? I'll post it when I get it done. Wow, answered that question for myself, it would ruin that 12 string guitar being so undertensioned for lbs of tension without a major adjustment to the neck & truss rod. And then the nut slots & saddle channels would need to be redone so that the strings wouldn't bind and snap or pop out for being 2-3 sizes larger than 10's. D'Addario's heaviest acoustic strings (13's) are 66 lbs short of a 12 string set, 12's are 90 lbs short & 10's are 116 lbs short. Couldn't even use EXP42 (16-56) Resophonic 200.33 lbs of tension or EXP23 (16-70) Baritone Strings 221.32 lbs of tension. the Baritones are closest at 25 lbs short for 6 strings, Resophonics short 45 lbs. Product Set Gauge Strings Tension Strings Tension EXP11 (12-53) 6 152.35 EXP12 (13-56) 6 175.92 EXP36 (10-47) 12 241.96 6 126.34 EXP16 (12-53) 6 156.29 EXP17 (13-56) 6 180.7 EXP38 (10-47) 12 245.53 6 129.21 Sooner or later the guitar neck is going to do this ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florid...ion_and_design https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florid...ridge_collapse Last edited by Jimbo00; 11-02-2019 at 12:58 AM.
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11-01-2019, 09:18 PM
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I am, I suppose, an old guy, and I grew up with 12-string guitars. My YouTube channel has a pile of performances using my Guild F512. I love 6-string guitars, too.
But the video below is not from an old guy. I think he does a great job with a 12-string! - Glenn
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11-01-2019, 10:23 PM
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Some songs I like on 12-string:
Some Lead Belly songs: When I Was A Cowboy, Alabamy Bound, Midnight On The Sea(Titanic), Goodnight Irene. I finger-picked Pink Anderson's Bring It On Home, learned from a Paul Geremia record and soon realised that it was the same as John Hartford's Boogie. I did these tunes as a medley at the Give A Hoot Folk Club and A singer told me that she was singing They're Red Hot while I was playing. I soon found that Alice's Restaurant is also the same progression and almost the same tune. I was picking it one day when my wife started singing an old pop tune called Jada. The bridge didn't work, but the rest did. I liked to finger pick tunes like St. James Infirmary and Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out. Beaumont Rag from Doc Watson & Son
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