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I'm wondering if perhaps we haven't fallen into a bit of a trap - figuring that because carbon fiber is manmade it is necessarily 100% uniform. After reading this post, I pulled out my Shorty and took a good look at the top, back and sides. On the top (unidirectional CF), there are some little individual fibers running across the grain (sort of analogous to bearclaw on spruce), and there is a definite line about 1/2 inch in from the sides that goes all the way around the top. On the sides and back there are some small imperfections in the otherwise uniform chevron pattern of the composite material. Since it all feels smooth and plays fantastically, I'm cool with all of that, since I bought it to play and not as an object d'arte.
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..... and they do sound fabulous, especially the Shorty, the CH series and the WS1005NS.
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Dare I say that with the unidirectional fabric oriented in the right direction, it could look (maybe... perhaps... if I squinted in the right way) wood-like. Of course, that may not be the best orientation for this application. Asking if curly maple is defective, and bsman's comment that "there are some little individual fibers running across the grain (sort of analogous to bearclaw on spruce)" also encouraged me to think about what I like in a wood top. A nice, even, tight grain is right at the top of the list (and I'm OK with some mild silking), but bear claw is not. Hmm...
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Here's a photo of my Eastman T184MX Lil Smokey that'll give you an idea of my preferences when it comes to black guitars.
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I'm thinking it's more in the Carbon layers beneath the finish. I bet you can't feel anything but smooth when you rub your hand on the top. My HDR 1000 has some noticeable visual things on the top but not at all noticeable to the touch.
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Just to add to the discussion... If you look at a CH top with just the right light at just the right angle, you will see a very faint classic RainSong 3x3 twill pattern. Given how the top is built up, CF-spacer-CF, and that the spacer is relatively light and weaker, it is not practical to have one of the CF layers have no tensile strength in one orientation. I suspect they put a light layer of twill underneath the unidirectional layer for the outer CF layer build up.
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That's correct (apologies if that wasn't clear in my first post).
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My CH-PA doesn't really show any of that "pitting" either. The only real noticeable "change" in the top is where it is glued to the body flange. You can see that transition in the right light. Anyway, looks like your going to be taken well care of by a great company with a great product.
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Similar to corrugated cardboard, Nomex honeycomb in a double topped wooden acoustic, or for that matter even an I-beam; to get maximum strength to weight, you separate the good stuff with a lighter spacer. RainSong's choice is proprietary. That line you see along the top perimeter and soundhole is where the spacer has been deleted and the inner and outer layers of CF are bonded directly together. They do this partly for acoustic reasons, similar to the relief route in a Taylor top, and partly for good design reasons (to prevent delamination and keep moisture out of the spacer).
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Does it have the small sharks inlay at the 12th fret of the fingerboard?
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No sharks in my CH-PA (Aug-17) or CH-WS (Jan-18). The WS was custom ordered from LAGS with no pickup so I assume it was fresh stock at the time.
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