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Old 05-23-2020, 09:38 AM
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The target is always moving, isn't that the way it should be?

Awhile back I set out to learn Etta Baker Piedmont style acoustic playing which took me in new directions and inspired new tunes of my own.

Reading Daniel Lanois book "Soul Mining - A Musical Life" inspired me to find new sounds on electric guitar and to play more electric rhythm parts without a pick and changed the way I approach mixing in Logic Pro X.

So hopefully I'll continue to want to push my playing in new directions.
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Have you achieved your goals as a guitar player?
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No, I find the guitar to be a humbling instrument. However, I'm okay with being a perpetual novice hobby player. Like any skill-set it requires practice time. It's easier in the current environment but may not be applicable long term. I am always looking for a new song or lick to add into my rotation so challenge continues. As per Malcolm Gladwell, it takes 10,000 hours of practice to master a skill-set. Therefore, I've a few more hours ahead of me to get to where I could be.
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Dumb question I suppose, but I wonder. Have you achieved your goals as a guitar player? Are you happy with your playing as it stands now?
I'll never achieve my goals; they're kind of like the stars - I never reach them, but I use them to navigate.

The more I learn about guitar and music the more I see I can never know everything. Which is fine as what I learn is awesome.

I used to never be satisfied with my playing. In the last decade or so, I have had moments of true satisfaction where what I was playing was JUST RIGHT.
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I was a trumpet major in college. I try to save most of my dissatisfaction for that beast of an instrument - as fickle as they come.

I can't say that when I started 57 years ago I sat down and wrote out a set of goals (not that it wouldn't be an interesting exercise). I'm usually reasonably satisfied while playing my favorite genres, but there are so many possibilities and areas where I have hardly scratched the surface - and probably never will (but you never know). I have reached an age where I'm not thrilled to do one more thing badly.

The question is, of course, rhetorical, but still a good one to ponder. I can't imagine any musician not wanting to get better. Tiger Woods takes golf lessons.

I remember there were about 4 measures in my master's recital where it was like I wasn't even playing - the music just flowed from the instrument. It was magical. That's 4 measures from an hour long program of pieces I had practiced for a huge number of hours. I'd like to get to that place and stay there for a whole song. A whole night. Forever. So yeah, like everyone else, I'm not there yet.
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Im very close to where I realistically, given the meds I take and my age, to where I want to be. Im just not willing to put in the extra time daily it would take to get there. Guitar is only one thing in my life so I try to balance everything. Im no pro like Tommy E but no beginner either. Not that I would want to play Tommy tunes even if I could. I like Ed Gerhard the best but Pierre is fun once in awhile.
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Dumb question I suppose, but I wonder. Have you achieved your goals as a guitar player? Are you happy with your playing as it stands now?
Not a snowballs chance in Hades. If I practiced for two hours a day maybe. But life, particularly kids, gets in the way.
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Dumb question I suppose, but I wonder. Have you achieved your goals as a guitar player? Are you happy with your playing as it stands now?
I feel I'm making slow but some steady progress in improving my playing.
I'm good enough though to enjoy my playing and also playing with my 2 best buddies. We have all played on and off since we were about 16 and we're nearly sixty now.
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I have a good time playing guitar. I get a new song, or an old song, in my head, sit down and play, and I get close enough. And even if it's not close enough, it turns into something new.

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Old 05-23-2020, 09:25 PM
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Dumb question I suppose, but I wonder. Have you achieved your goals as a guitar player? Are you happy with your playing as it stands now?
Fascinating question to muse on.... been playing for 7 or 8 years now, I think I've lost track. It was a life long dream. Tried once 25 years ago but the pressures of family life and teachers obsessed with teaching scales sucked the soul out of that effort.

When I started again 7 or 8 years ago, I had a clearer goal. To learn songs that people would sing along to around a campfire. That goal has been well and truly achieved and I'm very happy with where I am as a player in that regard.

But now, now that I can play and sing, where I want to be has changed. It's the conundrum that changes when new skills are dreamed of and then accomplished.

There are many things I now want to be able to do that I don't have the skill level for as yet. So I'm torn between celebrating how far I've come verses striving for new abilities.

Overall, I have to say I am where I want to be.
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Old 05-23-2020, 11:28 PM
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Dumb question I suppose, but I wonder.
Look at the length of this thread since yesterday. Not a dumb question at all. Nobody asks, especially other guitarists!

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Have you achieved your goals as a guitar player?
Like they say, it’s a journey, three steps forward and two steps back, a love-hate relationship, etc. If you want, there’s always another bend in the road.

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Are you happy with your playing as it stands now?
There’s always room for improvement. It’s all about maintaining a level and not burning out in the process. I try to keep a balance between very difficult and easier material so there’s usually something I’ll feel like playing at any given moment. For now, anyway.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:44 AM
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Have you achieved your goals as a guitar player?
No. I wanted to be rich and famous. I dreamed of making successful records and playing to 1000s of people in stadiums. Hasn't happened yet - nor is it likely to now.
However, as a goal it's somewhat receded in importance over the years.
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Are you happy with your playing as it stands now?
Yes.
Well, 99% anyway. The 1% is not a problem, I could fix that in a few minutes if I felt like it, but all the music I currently play fits easily inside that 99%. Most of it I could play with maybe 70-80% of my current skills. Some it with as little as 10% (it's still great music).

However, I should say that even as a beginner I was happy with my playing, and was probably at least 90% as good as I wanted to be from day to day.. I was "happy with my playing" because just playing guitar made me happy, it didn't matter that I was crap (compared to how I can play now).
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Old 05-24-2020, 11:26 AM
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No, not even close. The better I get, the more I see skills I'm deficient in.

I tend to go through cycles. Sometimes I focus on the the depth of a certain skill, then circle back around and add to the breadth of overall musicianship. My learning feels like a pre-virus stock graph. On downward trends I am exploring the depths of certain aspects of playing. When I turn around and add these skills to performing, that's when I feel how much growth this actually contributed to (or didn't) to my playing.

I'm nearly 57 and don't have enough years to accomplish what I would like to but I will continue to learn as long as I am capable.
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I am an older guy and think I have seldom been satisfied with my efforts. Looking back I think this attitude has been beneficial. I wasn't agonized by results, just never completely satisfied. This attitude provided motivation to play better. So I studied and played a lot of music.

My wife used to say I was not motivated, I was obsessed. I once read a remark where someone asked a very old world class musician why they practiced so much. The reply was "Because I think I am getting better".
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Old 06-23-2020, 02:26 AM
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It's a no for me. I haven't reached my goals for guitar and my goals are:
1. Play Austurias
2. Have a regular gig at a restaurant or somewhere
3. Teach guitar
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