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Did the old hardware Plate Reverbs have pre-delay?
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* Did the old hard plate reverbs have pre-delay? I did not know much about them back in the day. It seemed like there was only different plate settings...and then you just adjusted the amount of wet signal? * When did Pre-delay get added to reverb units? I assume that the very first reverb units did not have any such adjustment? Did Pre-delays come in the age of Electronic reverbs? Plug in Reverbs? or before. |
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I would do it with the Voxengo decoder plugin and some bus routing, I think. Without trying it, I'd say, send the raw signal to two busses, no direct output. Put the decoder on one bus- that will be your direct MS-decoded sound. On the 2nd bus, also add a decoder, but hit the Mute Mid button, then add a reverb. Blend to taste. If your DAW lets you route to busses pre-effect, you could do it with just the reverb send.
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[Edit: The idea of using the mute function in Voxengo worked well thanks; I duplicated the raw signal then used the decoder to mute Mid in one (with reverb plug-in also inserted) and Side in the other. Now able to try different reverb settings just on the side signal 'live'] Last edited by RodB; 04-14-2021 at 03:38 AM. |
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When in the reverb video he's comparing two, he says one is more emotional and yet it's way higher in the mix than the other that's apparently less emotional for him. So how can he compare an apple to an orange, particularly when he's talking about emotion? When he says that upon discovering predelay that, I'm paraphrasing here, the heavens opened up, that's pretty hyperbolic based on my experience. It certainly has an effect but I don't find it anywhere near the significance he implies. Maybe it's just me and others see it as he does. |
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I might assume that Going into the Tape Machine and into the reverb also added Tape saturation as well a pre-delay? Maybe that is why I like those 80's reverb sounds so much. |
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By the time the signal comes out of the chamber and added to the stereo mix, the effects of tape saturation would be subtle if at all noticeable.
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I was fascinated by his knowledge. It might be hyperbolic, but... what do I know? To me he was a shaman on top of the mountain. - Glenn
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There are people in the field who have forgotten more than I'll ever know. That's a good enough reason for me to listen when they talk.
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