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Slope shoulder?
Can anyone tell me what a slope-shoulder is on a guitar?
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I beleive the term slope shoulder refers to the configeration of a concert shape usally it is shallowed to make a differance in the sound at least that is the onlly slope shoulder definition that I can remember hearing!!
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I think Michael is right. I recall the term is generally used to describe the general design shape of the soundboard.
But you could relate the shoulder part to the corners of the upper bout which is usually the majority of the difference. Look at these 2 Martins and the Larrivee L shape and you will get what it means. Most parlor size guitars are having the slope shoulder shape too.
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Usually a dred with a narrowed upper bout, like my Martin CEO-4
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CEO-4 ...... Very Nice guitar!!!
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I have also heard this term used to descibe some guitars that have an elongated body to meet the neck at the 12th fret. The new Larrivee 12 fret that is coming out is referd to as a slope D, or dread. The front bout is a little longer to meet at the 12th fret. Don't know if this the "proper' answer, but it is what I have learned recently.
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I have also heard this term used to descibe some guitars that have an elongated body to meet the neck at the 12th fret. The new Larrivee 12 fret that is coming out is referd to as a slope D, or dread. The front bout is a little longer to meet at the 12th fret. Don't know if this the "proper' answer, but it is what I have learned recently.
Congratulations rick you the only one got it right. While many guitars that are not ''sqare shouldered dreads'' could reasonably be called slope shouldered it is in deed and extended dread made conveniently into a 12 fret guitar with big volume are what most people in the business are referring to as a slope shoulder. Songwriters love em we got at least 3 in our group that swear by them . They make great loud fingerpickers . later
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Thanks Stixx for the answer. Interesting to see that Martin called the CEO-4 Slope Shoulder too with it being 14 frets.
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yeah i didn't get that either
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Does the SLOPE increase the volume of the guitar or is it a tonal change??
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I've tried a few "parlor" guitars whatever that means and I personally think they sound like crap.
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Quote:
http://www.taylorguitarforum.com/for...threadid=36990
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Here is a not v ery good pictire of my Bourgeois slope dread :
My understanding is that slope shoulders are pretty essential for a 12 fret, with square shoulders leading to almost impossible access beyond the 12 fret. However, there are also an awful lot of 14 fret slopes, as mine is. They do give a different sound- not as "big" and open as a square shouldered dread perhaps, rather a more focussed, mellow sound. Of all the different shaped guitars out there the sexiest of them all has to be slope shouldered dreads, amnd that new Larrivee is a real beauty. Rob
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I would not confuse a Martin Slope Shoulder slot head with a Parlor guitar . First of parlors are usually smaller scale guitars and very petite tohold.
A slope shouldered Slot head is a guitar that takes a full size D28 specification and adds front bout up to the 12'th fret . Hence the 12 fret slope shouldered guitar is born. It has more volume in the body than a D28 but gives the illusion of diminuative size. But they also have wider necks and the slot head which I don't care for either. I find them to be great songwriting quitars that finger pick very effectively but for some reason they don't appeal to me as much as say an OM or a 000. If you want volume to play naturally and don't want a big Cannon dread they might be ok but they are anything but a Parlor guitar. I think they get miscnstrued for one by the pictures . Many Parlors are 12 fret guitars by design but smaller scale . The true 12 fret Slope shoulder is however a full size guitar that just joins the body at the 12 instead of the 14th fret. The pictured martin above in the thread here that is sunburst is moe to me like a gibson J45 which also has a slope shoulderd appearance. Collings version of those is called a J model and has a bigger rear bout therefore gaining the designation of "JUmbo " and entiredly different model indeed. Ackward looking , good playing , great sounding , and limited neck access above the 12 fret, and the Slope Shoulders give more volume to the body are the basic qualities of a 12 fret Slope shouldered guitar. Not a Parlar
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