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Do I need to record solo instrumental guitar in stereo?
What about mono? Is this a bad thing? It certainly would double my mic budget.
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You don't NEED to but I think it's preferable as it creates a more interesting listening experience for the listener.
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I do like a nice stereo capture in a great space. But I also think there's only one best spot to put a microphone. I did a 4 1/2 year stint mixing an internet radio show in a tiny, acoustically iffy room, and there was no way to do stereo mics on a guitar in there. But I had my delays and reverbs and that helped.
Here's a couple clips from that, one steel string and one nylon. |
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I prefer stereo. Good SDCs aren't that expensive IMO. Even a lot of inexpensive mics like the MXL603s are quite good.
Shure KSM 137 Line audio CM3 or CM4 AT4041 Oktava MC012 Just to name a few solid choices. Also you can find them used for great prices. |
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Yes, no question, two mikes are needed if you want the potential for a top sounding recording of a solo guitar.
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Bearing in mind, of course, that the top tier of the AGF is a pretty niche-y place, with a fairly narrow point of view. But if you want your recordings to sound like the ones they like, you need to record in stereo.
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often be captured well in mono - usually small ones with a pretty uniform wavefront radiating in all directions (say a flute or some other wind instruments for example).
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It depends on the application. Solo guitar? The audience expects stereo, even if it is just coincident X-Y pair.
Bob
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"NEED" absolutely not. "WANT" mebby "BAD THING" only in ones imagination With the obvious budget issue in mind,,, that is say effectively cutting your budget per mic in 1/2 with a pair (First it depends on actual budget) But if for example you are thinking instead of 1/2 ing your mic budget you want one (perhaps better ) mic now and a second at some future point. Then honestly there is nothing "wrong" recording in mono to start because : As Brent mentioned you can always send from that mono track to a parallel stereo track with a stereo instance of a reverb or delay or even both and get some widening of the perceived sound field OR you can also duplicate a mono guitar track and "slip it" ever so slightly time wise then pan the original left and the dup right to create a faux stereo recording Now some contend that slipping a dub track can create some minor phasing issues but I think there are ways to mitigate that by EQ-ing each track but slightly different Also here is an example of a mono recording in this case a mono guitar track and a mono vocal track both panned center ....BUT as Brent mentioned both being sent to a parallel stereo reverb . While not as wide as a stereo guitar recording but still usable IMO
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I really like the fingerstyle playing you've been sharing on the AGF. I play similar stuff. I certainly prefer my recordings in stereo (usually a spaced pair using sdc mics). I think it adds more interest and does a better job of capturing the entire instrument (especially if your space doesn't allow recording at several feet from the guitar). I spent years buying and upgrading recording gear. It certainly would have been less expensive if I would have known what to buy and bit the bullet on nicer gear earlier on. You've got some fine guitars; it's nice when your recording gear doesn't limit what's captured. For me, it seems like a really nice stereo recording chain costs about the same as one of my guitars. What I've done lately is decide what I'd like then take my time looking for a deal on used equipment.
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Also, there are plug-ins that take a mono track and turn it into stereo. For Cubase, for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qy-hSSetHk I’m sure similar plug-ins exist for whatever software the OP is using.
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The audience expects stereo of some sort in everything except AM radio.
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Pseudo stereo at best compared to a real stereo recording.
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It's best to experiment a bit and see what YOU like, and not what everyone else insists that you need. |
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