NRD- R for Reverb, the UAD Golden Reverberator

[buzzardwhiskey]

I've been thinking about what UA created, and I think it's technically cool, but I also think it's weird in a sense. Especially for acoustic junkies.

They made a box that emulates other boxes, that themselves emulated other "contraptions".

If UA put all that computing power and know-how into emulating real "spaces", I'm sure to look into it.

[Cuki79]

Originally Posted by buzzardwhiskey

real "spaces".

I am not sure buzzardwhiskey... real space can be captured with IR and used with pedals like the EPSI. The fact that the EPSI was discontinued shows people don't want "real spaces" but modelized ones so they can actually tune them to their liking...

[Doug Young]

Originally Posted by buzzardwhiskey

I've been thinking about what UA created, and I think it's technically cool, but I also think it's weird in a sense. Especially for acoustic junkies.

They made a box that emulates other boxes, that themselves emulated other "contraptions".

If UA put all that computing power and know-how into emulating real "spaces", I'm sure to look into it.

There are plenty of IR devices (and plugins) that model real spaces. But there's something that people like about many of the classic reverbs, plates as well as algorithmic reverbs. Each has its unique sound that has been used musically. What UAD tends to do is to model classic hardware. The do have a "space" modeling plugin. You can even choose what wall covering is used in the space! That's not in this pedal tho. Bottom line on all these options is "does it sound good?" I find all the UAD stuff in general sounds really good.

[buzzardwhiskey]

Originally Posted by Cuki79

I am not sure buzzardwhiskey... real space can be captured with IR and used with pedals like the EPSI. The fact that the EPSI was discontinued shows people don't want "real spaces" but modelized ones so they can actually tune them to their liking...

Wouldn't be the first time that my business sense wasn't very accute. What pedal would you say is the pinnacle of a "real space" reverb?

[Cuki79]

Originally Posted by buzzardwhiskey

Wouldn't be the first time that my business sense wasn't very accute. What pedal would you say is the pinnacle of a "real space" reverb?

No idea. I am not a reverb specialist, but I would say First you have to define “real space”.

All I know is that you can capture the IR of any “real space” it does not mean it actually sounds good. Many people like a plate reverb on their guitar… and a plate reverberation is not a real space

Try those “real space IRS” with your computer and an IR convolver, you might be disappointed:

https://www.openair.hosted.york.ac.uk

If any real room sounded good, concert rooms would not need acoustic damping panels…

[lppier]

I have a question on stereo reverb pedals like the ua- when I plug in a mono signal , and use two outputs , am I getting a “stereo-widened” reverb output, or just 2 reverb effected copies of the same mono signal?

With a delay that has ping pong and stereo output, I can hear it, but wondering about these reverbs.

[lppier]

I caved and got the golden reverbrator- it sounds so good, sounds great for playing jazz standards [emoji4] Thanks Doug for feeding me this poison pedal [emoji28]

[PANDAPANDELO]

I'd love to know how it compares to the FTT Ambi Space reverb in the Plate settings.

[Song]

Classy looks and sounds great. Congrats and thanks for sharing!

[Doug Young]

Originally Posted by lppier

I have a question on stereo reverb pedals like the ua- when I plug in a mono signal , and use two outputs , am I getting a “stereo-widened” reverb output, or just 2 reverb effected copies of the same mono signal?

With a delay that has ping pong and stereo output, I can hear it, but wondering about these reverbs.

Hey lppier, sorry I didn't see this question before. It really varies with each reverb, but in general, I think you'd find that a stereo reverb on a mono source acts a lot like playing in a room. Imagine a guitarist sitting on the stage fairly far away - a single point source, but you're back in the room hearing the sound bouncing off all the walls. You get the "stereo" of the room, but the direct sound of the guitar in "mono". Not all reverbs are trying to emulate the room, but it's the same idea regardless. Like a real plate reverb - an input excites the plate on one end, and then two sensors on the other end pick up the plate's vibration, creating a sort of stereo to the reverb. But it varies widely with different pedals exactly what they decide to do, what algorithms are used. If it's a realistic reverb, it will be more subtle than your ping-pong delay effect, but should create a sense of space (i.e. stereo)

[Doug Young]

I see you have the UAD now, tho, of course - so maybe you can answer your own question for this pedal! Glad you like it!