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Old 02-26-2024, 07:49 PM
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Noodling around in open C I sometimes take the little e down to D, which is cool. This afternoon I took the B string (C in open C) down to A as well as the little e to D and it is really cool!

So I'm CGCGAD. What is that called? Any tunes or videos of folks using it out there that you know of?
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Old 02-26-2024, 08:33 PM
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Al Petteway used it:

Edit: I couldn't post the video correctly, here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nGaE-PAxyQ

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Al Petteway used it:

Edit: I couldn't post the video correctly, here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nGaE-PAxyQ
Way cool brother! Thanks a bunch!
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Al Petteway used it:

Edit: I couldn't post the video correctly, here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nGaE-PAxyQ
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Open C + ?

Considering the forum title, I did a double take.

Some kind of open source C+ coding project was actually the first thing that leapt to my mind.

I had to check if I was still on a guitar forum.

Is C+ some kind of new version/variation of C# ?



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Old 02-27-2024, 06:55 AM
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C+ is an alternate way to write C augmented, but that wasn't my intention. It was a question, open C + this new-to-me thing I did with it equals what? And, frankly, a bit of a click bait as well. I am pretty boring and long winded and try to use my titles on my threads that have a serious question to entice a look from those with the answers, but see my handle and might not care to involve themselves in another long, boring story. I'm like that in person as well, but as I age I am finally learning to shut up a bit. Just not in this reply!
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Old 02-27-2024, 07:22 AM
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Nick Drake used CGCFCE tuning on quite a lot of songs. This is a very interesting tuning to noodle around with. Similar to DADGAD in C, but with the B string a step up to the root note instead of down to the 5th.
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…with the B string a step up to the root note instead of down to the 5th.
Hi abn556

'B' up to 'C' is ˝ step not a full step.

I've also written a piece or two in CGCGCD (which has no name I'm aware of).

I've even 'ported' (adapted) several DADGAD, CGCGCD and dropped D pieces to a cut capo secured at the 2nd fret (3 fret capo that covers strings 3-4-5 at the second fret for my uses).

It required some adaptation work…but for open mic settings or during concerts it permitted me to synthesize the DADGAD-ish feel without retuning the guitar.

My experience with tunings which raise the B string to C is their protection from breakage of the 2nd string definitely requires lowering at least one bass string or the tension gets so high on the raised B that it may break after tuning it up/down a few times. Another reason during live play that I adapted the cut capo.





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C+ is an alternate way to write C augmented, but that wasn't my intention. It was a question, open C + this new-to-me thing I did with it equals what? And, frankly, a bit of a click bait as well. I am pretty boring and long winded and try to use my titles on my threads that have a serious question to entice a look from those with the answers, but see my handle and might not care to involve themselves in another long, boring story. I'm like that in person as well, but as I age I am finally learning to shut up a bit. Just not in this reply!

Aha! (Not a one-hit-wonder reference.)

I guess I know more computerese than musical abbreviations. And augmentation was something I learned in high school for a classical language course.

It's OK to be long winded, as it beats short-sighted hands down.

And your click-bait worked.

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The overall tension on the guitar has nothing to do with breaking the 2nd string when tuning from B to C. That comment aside, I use a very similar tuning most of the time. CGDGCD. Since you are trying out CGCGAD already, it would make sense to try out CGDGCD. This is otherwise known as "Orkney" tuning. If you enjoy playing fingerstyle, with some patience, you can make some beautiful music in this tuning. I learned it from watching YouTube videos of Stephen Wake. It's quite addicting to be honest. If you're just a strummer, it won't be worth your time to mess with it. But for fingerstyle it is glorious. And I have never broken the string tuning it up a half step from B to C.
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Open C + ?

Considering the forum title, I did a double take.

Some kind of open source C+ coding project was actually the first thing that leapt to my mind.

I had to check if I was still on a guitar forum.

Is C+ some kind of new version/variation of C# ?



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My multi-scale Michael Kennedy is 26-25.5" with a .059 for the lowest C. It "lives" in CGCGCD. I could always try CGCGAD at some point.
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CGDGAD is another good one. El Mcmeen has a ton of arrangements for it.
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Old 02-27-2024, 12:19 PM
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Well, you are adding a 9th (the D note) and a 6th (the A note) to a C chord... that would make it a C 6/9.

And it IS a very cool sound, indeed!
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Well, you are adding a 9th (the D note) and a 6th (the A note) to a C chord... that would make it a C 6/9.

And it IS a very cool sound, indeed!
Yeah, and with no 3rd, it's ambiguous sounding...in a good way.

Very cool tuning. You can make straight majors or minors just by adding a note on the first string...
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