Stuck a Lyric in my Bourgeois

mondoslug · #1 05-19-2019, 06:09 PM

I'm a little late to the party, everybody has already loved the Lyric, then hated it and then moved on to the next thing...but I hadn't tried it yet. I had to get it out of my system & finally got one today & installed it in a Bourgeois Dread, myself...frightening enough. A minimum of cursing. It's pretty freaking close. It feels good playing it. I mean I get the midrange thing that some complain about, that is indeed challenging. There's a bit of the mic inside a guitar thing going on but it's so close to being really good I think. I wish it was a little 'wider' sounding. Still trying to figure out what's up with it. I don't know I'll probably try Dual Sourcing it with something before I pull it. Anyway, I don't officially hate it yet.

jonfields45 · #2 05-19-2019, 06:12 PM

Impressive playing and impressive tone.

mondoslug · #3 05-20-2019, 05:53 AM

Hey thanks Jon! It's got possibilities maybe. It remains to be seen if I can get away with it on a stage with a band/drummer.
I think I might be able to for the type of stuff I'd be using it for....or not.

martingitdave · #4 05-20-2019, 06:23 AM

The tune was great! That recording sounds pretty representative of what a lot of us hear with the Lyric. It’s better than a pickup in terms of definition and air, but a bit challenging to EQ. You can solder a a second source that will be available on the ring contact on the jack, assuming you have a two channel preamp or mixer. I had one guitar where the Lyric installation sounded amazing. I sold the guitar like a dummy. Since then, I get mostly mids when I install Lyric. I suspect each capsule is a little different.

In terms of feedback, after Sturgil Simpson switched to the Lyric, he used a sound hole plug when playing with his band.

Vancebo · #5 05-20-2019, 07:23 AM

Is that recording direct? I am guessing it is.

mondoslug · #6 05-20-2019, 07:29 AM

Hey thanks! Yeah, I have a Sunrise & M1 Passive laying around & as much as I like Mags for some stuff I was trying to stay away from that on this guitar but I'll probably try that. I've read a ton of these threads, I know K&K could be paired. That's one PU I've yet to try. I'm not feeling like I'm missing low end but missing some air, even though this seems to have more than some other PUs.

I've been using it with a Para DI which I'm really not a fan of that box, although it's tried & true & been using it forever. I'm convinced it adds this low mid blanket over everything although it might not just be calibrated or something or it's just me. I'm new to the latest crop of PUs. I've had the stuff - Pendulum SPS-1, AP13, Raven labs, Richard Battaglia, etc. but I guess I gotta find something with a couple of bands of EQ. Thanks! Always enjoy your contributions to AGF.

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Originally Posted by martingitdave

The tune was great! That recording sounds pretty representative of what a lot of us hear with the Lyric. It’s better than a pickup in terms of definition and air, but a bit challenging to EQ. You can solder a a second source that will be available on the ring contact on the jack, assuming you have a two channel preamp or mixer. I had one guitar where the Lyric installation sounded amazing. I sold the guitar like a dummy. Since then, I get mostly mids when I install Lyric. I suspect each capsule is a little different.

In terms of feedback, after Sturgil Simpson switched to the Lyric, he used a sound hole plug when playing with his band.

mondoslug · #7 05-20-2019, 07:31 AM

Hey Vancebo, indeed it is.

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Originally Posted by Vancebo

Is that recording direct? I am guessing it is.

martingitdave · #8 05-20-2019, 07:33 AM

Thanks! You might like the Tech21 Q strip. It was suggested by a friend that has committed to the Lyric for his guitars. It has two mid bands I believe. Since I’m not using Lyric presently I sold my Q strip.

Monsum · #9 05-20-2019, 09:20 AM

I think it sounds very good, as good as the Lyric can. Not boxy at all.
I agree the tone could be a bit 'bigger' but for performing with a band you might not need the whole frequency spectrum.
Playing is top-notch.

Petty1818 · #10 05-20-2019, 11:29 AM

I still wish that Lr Baggs would find a way to make a passive version of the Lyric. I could see myself experimenting with it a lot.

SpruceTop · #11 05-20-2019, 04:13 PM

Excellent playing and the tone of your direct-recorded Lyric is pretty much the best Lyric demo I've heard! Thanks!

mondoslug · #12 05-21-2019, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by martingitdave

Thanks! You might like the Tech21 Q strip. It was suggested by a friend that has committed to the Lyric for his guitars. It has two mid bands I believe. Since I’m not using Lyric presently I sold my Q strip.

Hey thanks martingitdave, I was taking a look at that online.

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Originally Posted by Monsum

I think it sounds very good, as good as the Lyric can. Not boxy at all.
I agree the tone could be a bit 'bigger' but for performing with a band you might not need the whole frequency spectrum.
Playing is top-notch.

Thankin' ya Monsum - I've enjoyed your postings of the different pickups. I've watched those vids a bunch.

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Originally Posted by Petty1818

I still wish that Lr Baggs would find a way to make a passive version of the Lyric. I could see myself experimenting with it a lot.

That would be nice. I have one more guitar I'm thinking of putting something in and can't see a reason not to finally check out the HFN, almost did it in this one instead.

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Originally Posted by SpruceTop

Excellent playing and the tone of your direct-recorded Lyric is pretty much the best Lyric demo I've heard! Thanks!

Thanks SpruceTop! I'm not as brave as you guys who do a great service posting clips of various pickups straight in, "unadorned". I make no claims of that, my clip has been tweaked a bit. Again thanks.

stringbound · #13 05-21-2019, 07:44 AM

Why hate the Lyric? It's easy to use and has a decent and quite natural sound. At the moment I have it in a Furch Little Jane and I had it in two Taylor Grand Concerts. You have to experiment with the position of the Lyric inside the guitar, but once you've found the sweet spot of your guitar the Lyric sounds great. The LR Baggs Lyric can easily be tweaked further with the LR Baggs Para Acoustic DI, for an even more natural sound.

mondoslug · #14 05-21-2019, 09:57 AM

I like it, I'm gonna give it some time. I actually might have it a little too close too the pins. There wasn't a whole lot of room on the plate but I'll probably move it a hair further away from them just because.

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Originally Posted by stringbound

Why hate the Lyric? It's easy to use and has a decent and quite natural sound. At the moment I have it in a Furch Little Jane and I had it in two Taylor Grand Concerts. You have to experiment with the position of the Lyric inside the guitar, but once you've found the sweet spot of your guitar the Lyric sounds great. The LR Baggs Lyric can easily be tweaked further with the LR Baggs Para Acoustic DI, for an even more natural sound.

The Kid! · #15 05-22-2019, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by martingitdave

Thanks! You might like the Tech21 Q strip. It was suggested by a friend that has committed to the Lyric for his guitars. It has two mid bands I believe. Since I’m not using Lyric presently I sold my Q strip.

Second on the Q-Strip. Very useful and musical EQ. Killer playing by the way!