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Old 08-30-2023, 07:10 PM
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Recent study on cannabinoids effect on inflammation.
https://phys.org/news/2023-08-team-m...lammation.html
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Old 08-31-2023, 04:45 AM
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Recent study on cannabinoids effect on inflammation.
https://phys.org/news/2023-08-team-m...lammation.html
Thanks for this. Interesting indeed.
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Old 08-31-2023, 10:37 AM
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Recent study on cannabinoids effect on inflammation.
https://phys.org/news/2023-08-team-m...lammation.html
The researchers studied how different cannabinoids, including the psychoactive THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) and CBD (cannabidiol), which is already found in freely available products today, act on human immune cells. "We found that all eight cannabinoids we studied had anti-inflammatory effects," says Lukas Peltner, doctoral student and first author of the study. "All the compounds we studied were found to inhibit the formation of pro-inflammatory messenger substances in cells while enhancing the formation of inflammation-resolving substances."

Yep, definitely a placebo.
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Old 08-31-2023, 10:47 AM
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Would really like to know what the dosage and delivery method was for CBD. In my experience CRD edibles or tinctures haven’t been that effective for muscle pain unless combined with THC. They have worked well for general calming and stress relief.
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Old 08-31-2023, 12:40 PM
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Here in Oregon it is practically legal.
One drawback is that it is a cash only industry at all stores (THC).
There is a mind-boggling variety and displays.
You need a good counter person (called Bud-Tender) to try and explain it all.
I totally suggest micro dosing for awhile.
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Old 08-31-2023, 03:29 PM
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Here in Oregon it is practically legal.
One drawback is that it is a cash only industry at all stores (THC).
There is a mind-boggling variety and displays.
You need a good counter person (called Bud-Tender) to try and explain it all.
I totally suggest micro dosing for awhile.
Not "practically", ACTUALLY. https://cfah.org/cbd-legal-states/

Cash only is for THC products as the Feds have cannabis as Schedule 1 drug so no legal activity Federally and banking is a Federally regulated activity. There's been a few pushes to get a special exemption but it's died every time and thus "cash only".
Side note: Bud tenders vary in knowledge and experience. You're often better talking to a few before making a decision and (even better yet) to do your own research before walking into a dispensary. Plenty of info online for you.
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Old 08-31-2023, 08:03 PM
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The researchers studied how different cannabinoids, including the psychoactive THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) and CBD (cannabidiol), which is already found in freely available products today, act on human immune cells. "We found that all eight cannabinoids we studied had anti-inflammatory effects," says Lukas Peltner, doctoral student and first author of the study. "All the compounds we studied were found to inhibit the formation of pro-inflammatory messenger substances in cells while enhancing the formation of inflammation-resolving substances."

Yep, definitely a placebo.

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Old 08-31-2023, 08:25 PM
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Not "practically", ACTUALLY. https://cfah.org/cbd-legal-states/

Cash only is for THC products as the Feds have cannabis as Schedule 1 drug so no legal activity Federally and banking is a Federally regulated activity. There's been a few pushes to get a special exemption but it's died every time and thus "cash only".
Side note: Bud tenders vary in knowledge and experience. You're often better talking to a few before making a decision and (even better yet) to do your own research before walking into a dispensary. Plenty of info online for you.
The linked site is a bit out of date, at least for Minnesota. As of August 1 this year, recreational marijuana is legal and there are stores selling CBD and THC products. The weird thing is that it will be another 18-24 months before there will be dispensaries where you can buy it legally because the legislature is still working out the details. From what I understand, you can buy it on the reservations or maybe the high school kid down the street .

While I do use some of the CBD products the store across the street from me sells as sleep aid (all their products are Minnesota grown and produced), at 70 years old I don't want my mind to be in a marijuana-induced fog because there is too much I still want to accomplish before I either die or have some sort of health issue that prevents me from doing the things I want to do.

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The linked site is a bit out of date, at least for Minnesota.
I knew that when I posted it. I was responding to someone from another State altogether anyway. Still, things are moving fast and sites go out of date. The thing is, more States are opening the legal market so even if "out of date", if that site (or really any other respected source), says legal or semi legal then chances are it's that or at this point just simply legal. I don't see any States moving towards greater restrictions at all.
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When weed because legal here in Vermont, I decided to grow some and see if it would help with sleep, which it did. But it also reduced my arthritic hip pain by about 80% after a couple of months of use and that relief has remained the same for three years. Also, so many people grow weed in Vermont, that they often give it away, the way people who grow too many tomatoes or zucchinis do. I use a vape to smoke it every night before I go to sleep. I prefer Indica too. I don’t know how the legal weed stores stay in business at those prices. But I also think this is an herbal remedy, and not something that you can look in the same way that you would a commercial medical product. People react differently to this stuff, depending on all kinds of factors. And this stuff is so much more powerful than the weed of the ’60’s that you have to be fairly careful with it.
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Old 09-03-2023, 05:28 AM
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I have been dealing with inflammation and terrible join pain all through my body and I was reading about the benefits of CBD (non THC) I have been taking two a day for a week and it's remarkable how much better I feel and the inflammation is gone.

If you are suffering like I was please give it a try it has given me my mobility back, plus my joins in my fingers don't hurt anymore so guitar playing is much more enjoyable again.


Since I was a “cautious believer” about CBD prior to this thread, i decided to by some of this specific brand,based upon OP’s experience. After a week of taking it, i am thinking that it might be working for me as well. I have a “degenerative condition associated with aging” in my cervical spine (i.e. arthritis, degenerating discs), which has been causing a variety of aches and sensations in my neck, arms, and hands for 5 or 6 years. I’ve been managing with stretching and exercises and acupuncture and (recently) chiropractic. The last 6 months have been a bit more difficult, and I was getting ready to explore other possible solutions (probably a steroid injection).

We will see what happens over the long haul. And I feel kind of weird endorsing a product to folks other than close friends who I have reason might be receptive. But I am going to make an exception today.

Again, it has only been a week, and all kinds of things can cause fluctuations in the symptoms I have. But my early impressions are favorable.
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Old 09-11-2023, 10:30 AM
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Since I was a “cautious believer” about CBD prior to this thread, i decided to by some of this specific brand,based upon OP’s experience. After a week of taking it, i am thinking that it might be working for me as well. I have a “degenerative condition associated with aging” in my cervical spine (i.e. arthritis, degenerating discs), which has been causing a variety of aches and sensations in my neck, arms, and hands for 5 or 6 years. I’ve been managing with stretching and exercises and acupuncture and (recently) chiropractic. The last 6 months have been a bit more difficult, and I was getting ready to explore other possible solutions (probably a steroid injection).

We will see what happens over the long haul. And I feel kind of weird endorsing a product to folks other than close friends who I have reason might be receptive. But I am going to make an exception today.

Again, it has only been a week, and all kinds of things can cause fluctuations in the symptoms I have. But my early impressions are favorable.
Rich, I am glad that it looks as though it is helping you. That was my intention all along to just possibly help others that might be going through what I have. I never was claiming that this is the cure all by any stretch, just that it has helped me and I wanted to pass that on.
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Old 09-11-2023, 12:09 PM
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I knew that when I posted it. I was responding to someone from another State altogether anyway. Still, things are moving fast and sites go out of date. The thing is, more States are opening the legal market so even if "out of date", if that site (or really any other respected source), says legal or semi legal then chances are it's that or at this point just simply legal. I don't see any States moving towards greater restrictions at all.
We live in interesting times. As I understand it (please correct me if I am wrong), though marijuana may be legal in a given state, it is still a Federal offense to carry it across state lines because at the Federal level, it is still illegal. I asked my doctor at the VA how the VA viewed marijuana (since it is now legal with restrictions in Minnesota), and he said that since the VA is a Federal institution on Federal land, it is illegal as far as the VA is concerned.

I would think there might come a time when it would be legal at the Federal level, but maybe that would never come to pass, or at least not in the near future (?).

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Old 09-11-2023, 12:12 PM
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Since I was a “cautious believer” about CBD prior to this thread, i decided to by some of this specific brand,based upon OP’s experience. After a week of taking it, i am thinking that it might be working for me as well. I have a “degenerative condition associated with aging” in my cervical spine (i.e. arthritis, degenerating discs), which has been causing a variety of aches and sensations in my neck, arms, and hands for 5 or 6 years. I’ve been managing with stretching and exercises and acupuncture and (recently) chiropractic. The last 6 months have been a bit more difficult, and I was getting ready to explore other possible solutions (probably a steroid injection).

We will see what happens over the long haul. And I feel kind of weird endorsing a product to folks other than close friends who I have reason might be receptive. But I am going to make an exception today.

Again, it has only been a week, and all kinds of things can cause fluctuations in the symptoms I have. But my early impressions are favorable.
That seems a smart approach. I looked that particular brand up and saw that its content is higher than the stuff I purchased locally, so I decided to take 2 instead of 1 gummy as a dose to try to give it a fair trial. So far, the jury is still out.

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We live in interesting times. As I understand it (please correct me if I am wrong), though marijuana may be legal in a given state, it is still a Federal offense to carry it across state lines because at the Federal level, it is still illegal. I asked my doctor at the VA how the VA viewed marijuana (since it is now legal with restrictions in Minnesota), and he said that since the VA is a Federal institution on Federal land, it is illegal as far as the VA is concerned.

I would think there might come a time when it would be legal at the Federal level, but maybe that would never come to pass, or at least not in the near future (?).

Tony
Marijuana does not equal CBD. Marijuana is a plant that (usually) contains CBD. Yes, marijuana is at the time of this writing still a Federal Schedule 1 substance. Illegal for any and all purposes at the Federal level and therefore, obviously, on Federal property including VA, airports, military bases etc, etc.

The Feds are currently talking about moving it to Schedule 3 which would be a life changer for millions. https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/...hedule-3-drug/ Never say never.
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