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Old 01-09-2023, 10:47 PM
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Default 1 3/4” x 2 5/16” full neck in CF?

As a mainly vintage Gibson/Martin fingerpicker with 20+ guitars, I’m looking for something to take on vacation or leave on the couch outside of the humidity controlled music room. The problem is I've been through 10 pages of threads and I can't find a guitar with:
A full neck (mod V or full C) of 1 3/4", 1 13/16", or 1 7/8"
A saddle spacing of 2 5/16" or 2 3/8"
24.75"-25.4 scale
00/000/OM size or collapsing

I had a Journey OF660 but the thin neck, 24.5" scale, and narrow saddle just didn't work out, but I loved the portability and stability.

Are there any L-00, 000/OM CF guitars out there for us vintage players?
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Old 01-11-2023, 11:30 AM
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This would have to be used but may be close to what you are looking for. May also be too small a neck for you, but from the Blackbird website under legacy instruments, the Lucky 13:
Construction Carbon Unibody
Top Carbon Fiber
Fretboard Width at 12 Fret 2.18 in (55.372 mm)
Fretboard Width at Nut 1.75 in (44.45 mm)
Neck material Carbon Fiber
Side Markers 3, 5, 7, 9, 12, 15, & 17
Bridge Material Micarta
Neck Shape Low Profile, Hollow
Neck Reinforcement Static Carbon Truss
Bridge String Spacing 2.18 in (55.372 mm)
Saddle 16 in Radius/Compensated/Graphtech
Nut Material Graphtech Tusq
Fretboard Micarta 16" radius
Tuning Machines Gotoh
Headstock Hollow With Sound Port
Headplate Carbon Fiber
Recommended Strings Elixir Nano-web 80/20 Lights
Case Hybrid soft case
Electronics Optional Mi-Si Rechargeable Pickup
Scale Length 24.75 in (628.65 mm)
Fretwire Medium Stainless Steel
Finish High Gloss Polyurethane
Dimensions 37.5 in x 14 in x 4.5 in
Weight 4.2 lbs (1.9 Kilos)
Number of Frets Clear 13
Number of Frets Total 20
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Thanks so much for your reply. It’s the saddle spacing that’s really key. I can play 1 3/4” -2.05” (vintage to classical) at the nut, but a saddle spacing of 55mm (2.18”) is shy of 2 3/16”. I know 5mm or 1/8" is very small, but it's very difficult for me to fingerpick. I need 2 1/4", preferably even 2 3/8". 1930's Gibsons and Martins were 2 3/8" or 2 5/16". Most of my guitars are 2 5/16" or 2 3/8" with one Goodall, one resonator, and 2 classicals at 2 1/4". I don't own any guitar below 2 1/4"

2 1/4” = 2.25” = 57.15mm
2 5/16” = 2.31” = 58.74mm
2 3/8 = 2.375” = 60.33mm
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Thanks so much for your reply. It’s the saddle spacing that’s really key. I can play 1 3/4” -2.05” (vintage to classical) at the nut, but a saddle spacing of 55mm (2.18”) is shy of 2 3/16”. I know 5mm or 1/8" is very small, but it's very difficult for me to fingerpick. I need 2 1/4", preferably even 2 3/8". 1930's Gibsons and Martins were 2 3/8" or 2 5/16". Most of my guitars are 2 5/16" or 2 3/8" with one Goodall, one resonator, and 2 classicals at 2 1/4". I don't own any guitar below 2 1/4"

2 1/4” = 2.25” = 57.15mm
2 5/16” = 2.31” = 58.74mm
2 3/8 = 2.375” = 60.33mm
If 2 1/4” at the bridge is OK, then you might want to look at an Emerald X20. They bill it as their ‘dreadnaught’ size, but in reality it’s close to an OOO/OM in size. 1 3/4” nut and 25 1/2” scale as standard, also. I’ve no idea how to categorize the neck profile - I’ve seen it described as skinny, and as fat, so I guess it depends on your POV

Suffice it to say that, as the owner of a Martin 0-16NY (1 7/8” nut, and a neck profile best described as ‘portly’), I find my X20 perfectly comfortable to play.

The Emerald X7 and X30 share the same nut and bridge dimensions, as well.
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Emerald also entertains a certain amount of customization — you could get an X20 with a wider neck I think. Give them a call.
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Old 01-12-2023, 11:26 AM
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Emerald also entertains a certain amount of customization — you could get an X20 with a wider neck I think. Give them a call.
Of course - but as far as I’m aware, they don’t offer alternate spacing at the bridge.

You *could* get to 2 1/2” by buying an X7-12 or X20-12 and leaving 6 strings off it - that would get you a 1 15/16” nut as well
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