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rick-slo · #91 05-18-2014, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke_

Ok, got a no effects version up and set them all to be DL'ed... I clicked mono mixdown

A link please

Luke_ · #92 05-18-2014, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rick-slo

A link please

http://soundcloud.com/smokerblacker/...ffects/s-aIp3e

rick-slo · #93 05-18-2014, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke_

http://soundcloud.com/smokerblacker/...ffects/s-aIp3e

When you say mono mixdown does that mean this was originally recorded in stereo?

With the clip in the link your best bet is probably finding a good sounding reverb for it. I played around with track delay and equalization and it did not help.

Luke_ · #94 05-18-2014, 09:41 AM

No it is just a mono track. I thought by selecting mono on the output it may mix down to unbalanced. I hope when the UR44 shows up the DSP has a better reverb than the trial cubase

Doug Young · #95 05-18-2014, 11:04 AM

OK, it's good to hear the raw track, thanks. No major issues with the recording itself, levels are ok, not overdriving. Noise is minimal. I still hear the sound that was bothering me. I was wondering if it was something in the post-processing, but this shows that it's not. I'm forgetting the beginning of this thread. Aren't you in an untreated concrete room? That's probably the #1 thing to fix. There's really no amount of processing that will remove bad acoustics. It's really hard to learn about mic placement or mixing if the acoustics are messing with the sound. Try a different room, build a few acoustics panels, etc.

Luke_ · #96 05-18-2014, 11:22 AM

Yea been looking at just getting a couple panels to play into. Not crazy about doing a bunch of treatment all over. But rather a couple baffles or something.

What are you hearing Doug?

Doug Young · #97 05-18-2014, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke_

Yea been looking at just getting a couple panels to play into. Not crazy about doing a bunch of treatment all over. But rather a couple baffles or something.

What are you hearing Doug?

Hard to put into words, it's just not a clear balanced, distinct, present sound. I've heard worse from home recordings, and you could be happy with it. But it could be better. I wanted to hear the raw recording because I suspected maybe things like your "stereo enhancement" plugin was adding phase issues, causing the sound, but in this case, I'd say it's pretty simple - room acoustics.

A couple of baffles should help, see Fran's demo. But this is an area that separates pro studios from home setups. You can spend all you want on gear, and worry about preamps and mics, etc, but in the end, your room largely defines what your guitar will sound like, and the mics exaggerate the impact of the room (compared to your ears, which tend to be more forgiving).

Luke_ · #98 05-18-2014, 12:14 PM

It could always sound better. I'll prolly splurge on panels and the mics as my next random buying spree

Luke_ · #99 06-01-2014, 08:19 PM

I added two new songs to my soundcloud one raw and the other with a little reverb.. I used the CAD E70's and the UR44. One at the 7th fret towards the sound hole kinda. The other about a foot above the body pointed towards the saddle. I did nothing with the raw copy other than a little panning. No EQ, compressor, effects of any kind. The other just has the slightest reverb still no EQ or compressor

Doug Young · #**100** 06-01-2014, 11:51 PM

Luke, it's kind of hard to know which os the many soundcloud recordings you're talking about now...

whitecloud · #**101** 06-02-2014, 03:16 AM

Hey Luke I assume you are talking about the new songs. Yeah I think adding a little Reverb helped. Funny thing is some think these e70's might be a tad bright but I have found a few sweet-spots. Unusual mic placement but I only guess you chose your ears as guides. Cool

Luke_ · #**102** 06-02-2014, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug Young

Luke, it's kind of hard to know which os the many soundcloud recordings you're talking about now...

Well... Not trying to be a wise guy but I added "new songs" to my SC, that's the name... As I haven't named the song yet

http://soundcloud.com/smokerblacker/...reo-55/s-QY4Go
(No effects, no EQ, no anything)

http://soundcloud.com/smokerblacker/...stereo/s-BswOc
(Only a little reverb... Very little)

Played on my seagull

rick-slo · #**103** 06-02-2014, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke_

Well... Not trying to be a wise guy but I added "new songs" to my SC, that's the name... As I haven't named the song yet

http://soundcloud.com/smokerblacker/...reo-55/s-QY4Go
(No effects, no EQ, no anything)

http://soundcloud.com/smokerblacker/...stereo/s-BswOc
(Only a little reverb... Very little)

Played on my seagull

For a better sound don't pan.

Luke_ · #**104** 06-02-2014, 08:59 AM

I'll center up both channels and do some light mixing and see how that sounds

Doug Young · #**105** 06-02-2014, 10:37 AM

Sorry, I just had a few seconds to look, and saw a big list that didn't seem to match what you posted. I don't know if "new" was new today, or a year ago :-) I'd suggest posting one recording with a direct link.

I won't have the ability to listen for quite a while, but without hearing your track, I think what Rick means is don't pan inward - that is, if you've recorded to 2 separate tracks, pan hard left and hard right - not centered. If you record to a stereo track, just leave the mix alone. The goal should be to create the stereo image with mic placement, not panning.

it also sounds like you finally got 2 mics. I'd start with classic positions - XY, spaced pairs, before just trying random things, unless you just want to have fun trying random things, which is fine. But nailing the basic techniques that are known to work would probably give you a better starting point for later experiments. There's a reason people use these mic placements - they sound good!