Organic Foods

[Dirk Hofman]

I try to eat it as much as possible. The cheapo in me recoils from pricing sometimes, but it's totally variable by store, item, and time of year. Given my focus on nutrition and health it's a fairly glaring blind spot that I don't pay more attention to this and that I'm rather penny-wise and pound foolish in this regard.

Originally Posted by Haasome

Strawberries
Spinach
Kale
Nectarines
Apples
Grapes
Peaches
Cherries
Pears
Tomatoes
Celery
Potatoes

The dirty dozen list is a good reminder, thanks for that. I eat a LOT of tomatoes, potatoes, and apples.

[jseth]

I like to buy organic so long as it's reasonably cost-effective... just makes sense to me.

I won't buy organic is the cost is 2x the norm; some items (berries, especially) I will only buy if they're organic (they still put some NASTY stuff on strawberries, for example).

It's a shame that the cost of "becoming organic" is prohibitive for many smaller growers...

[fazool]

Sorry if I seemed contentious.

Animal welfare and abuse is a passion of mine so I speak strongly when the topic comes up.

[619TF]

Originally Posted by jseth

It's a shame that the cost of "becoming organic" is prohibitive for many smaller growers...

and for consumers too!

[LyleGorch]

All I know is that Bell and Evans organic chicken is the best I’ve ever eaten.

[rokdog49]

I can buy a dozen “Jumbo” eggs for $.56 or buy a dozen large “organic” for $4.50/ dozen.
Regular Bananas $.55/lb. organic for $.68/lb.
I’ll buy the bananas but not the eggs.
I always buy free range chicken breasts because they are plentiful and inexpensive. Same with anything else. If it’s reasonably priced, I’m in.
I don’t care about the other reasons to buy organic so don’t waste your time informing me.

[KevWind]

Originally Posted by fazool

Sorry if I seemed contentious.

Animal welfare and abuse is a passion of mine so I speak strongly when the topic comes up.

Myself also, Feedlots are high on my radar, it appears our common ground is concern about animal welfare and abuse.

You may find it interesting how we have designed our new riding arena/barn to be both sheltered and outside . But I will start a new thread about it ,rather than distract from this one

[imwjl]

Originally Posted by jseth

I like to buy organic so long as it's reasonably cost-effective... just makes sense to me.

I won't buy organic is the cost is 2x the norm; some items (berries, especially) I will only buy if they're organic (they still put some NASTY stuff on strawberries, for example).

It's a shame that the cost of "becoming organic" is prohibitive for many smaller growers...

Becoming small scale, gearing for local markets and organic has been the savior for noticeable amounts of farmers in my area.

[golfreggie]

Originally Posted by catdaddy

From birth to abattoir

Thanks, I learned a new word, means slaughterhouse, right?

[buddyhu]

We buy as much organic stuff as is possible. Not only produce and meats, but clothes made from organic cotton, etc.

I understand that many folks can’t afford to do what we do, and that they can’t make the time to grow their own produce (which might not be up to the standards that would allow such food to be certified organic, but it is usually a couple of steps in a better direction than what is available at the typical grocery store, especially for the dirty dozen). But some organic foods approach the cost of non-organics, and can be had by most people for whom the principles resonate.

[Otterhound]

Ironic that every farmer that I know loves it and hates it .
Let's start with the hate part . They hate it because they consider it to be fake .
They love it because they can charge more for their products .
My personal tastes lean towards synthetic food .

[RalphH]

Originally Posted by fazool

Again, you are confusing free range with organic - these are not at all related.

Our daughter has been in vet medicine for years so we have direct inside info.

Free Range does not mean organic
Large scale does not mean non-organic
Small scale does not mean organic
etc.


Organic means - no vaccines and no medicine so sick animals suffer and spread infections.

The misinformation is that people are equating Free Range (wonderful and human) and small operation (wonderful and usually humane) with organic (veterinary abuse).

It must mean different things in different places.

In the UK, to be classed as organic it does have to be genuinely free-range (must always be outside whenever conditions permit), minimum 60% grass-based diet, and they can be vaccinated, and you can treat them antibiotics when they need it, but you can't give antibiotics it to them routinely.

Back to the OP, we buy organic pretty much everything.

[KevWind]

Originally Posted by Otterhound

Ironic that every farmer that I know loves it and hates it .
Let's start with the hate part . They hate it because they consider it to be fake .
They love it because they can charge more for their products .
My personal tastes lean towards synthetic food .

“consider it to be fake “ Interesting perspective for them to have. Kinda hard to imagine they have reached that opinion because of knowledge of the all current extensive research and related data in fields of biochemistry , food, and human health , and there is no health benefits to not ingesting toxic pesticides ,growth hormones and steroids etc.
Or have they have determined that the air, ground, and water, is already so polluted that attempts to grow organic are futile ?

[TBman]

This is more than a little unsettling....

https://nypost.com/2020/01/17/cows-t...ut-food-study/

Kinda reminds me of.....

[TomB'sox]

OK everyone, let's keep this thread civil. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, you don't have to agree, but the forum is to remain civil and this thread has seemed to spark many strong opinions on both sides. Thank you.