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12-02-2020, 03:37 PM
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12-04-2020, 11:52 AM
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I'm always amazed when people talk about an affordable guitar at $1000.What happened to $300-500,$500-800?You can get some nice guitars for that.The guitar makers are making some great stuff for way under a grand.I think it was the guitar makers that started that $1000 is affordable stuff.I have alot of different guitars,and glad to see there is some great cheaper guitars.$1000 is nuts to throw around like it's affordable.
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#33
12-04-2020, 12:15 PM
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Yep. When it comes to electrics, $1000 is already premium price. Acoustics is a different animal. $1000 is considered a mid-grade affordable, and a $2500 D-18 is an “affordable” Martin.
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12-04-2020, 09:34 PM
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I got my first electric in 1964: Gretsch Double Anniversary, a first "good" guitar for an intermediate student as well as a working instrument for an in-the-trenches pro (FYI Brian Jones used one on the Stones' first USA tour)... List price in November 1963 was $295 - adjusted for inflation approximately $2400, same as the current MSRP of the '60 Vintage Select Double Anniversary... Similarly, $120 (just over $1000 in today's money) would get you a low-midline Harmony or Kay, one of the off-brands, or a European import - few of which survived, and most of which were borderline trainwrecks even in their day - or, if you knew someone in the business who could recommend you to a "pro shop" where they offered 40% off to teachers/working pros/AFM cardholders, an entry-level Gibson/Fender solidbody... $300-500 today gets you a serviceable student electric (very basic materials, generic-sounding electronics, thick poly finish) which, although a significant improvement over those of two generations prior, will still need an investment of time/money to bring it up to snuff - at the very least, a full professional setup including nut filing and fret leveling/polishing (feel those sharp little barbs when you run your hand up and down the neck quickly - that's called "fret sprout," and while all current guitars regardless of price are subject, those made with lower-cost/lower-quality woods are especially prone), and probably hardware/pickups/rewiring somewhere down the line... In 1964, that $300-500 asking price equated to $35-60 - questionable stuff even then... Good news is, thanks to improvements in technology and production methods, $1000+/- buys a fully-professional gigworthy instrument that not only looks/sounds the part, but won't crap out on you ten minutes before you go on stage. FYI Tony Bennett's guitarist was using a $1K Godin CW II on tour for several years - I'd be inclined to think both he and his boss know a little something about tone - and had an equivalent-quality two-pickup hollowbody been available for $120 back when I got my Gretsch Double Annie, my dad would have been one happy (and wealthier) man. In a nutshell, then as now you get what you pay for; although those rare gems that punch well above their weight do exist - ask any long-time player who owns a Godin 5th Avenue acoustic archtop ($500 street) how it compares to the equivalent $60-70 Harmony Broadways/Montclairs from the '50s/60s - nobody's in this business to lose money, and corners are inevitably going to be cut somewhere...
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12-04-2020, 10:09 PM
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12-04-2020, 11:51 PM
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Ok maybe not $1000, but anywhere from $1100 to $1500 can buy you an USA-made electric. I guess premium is subjective.
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12-06-2020, 10:10 AM
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Acoustics Irvin * SCGC * Bresnan * Dyson * National Reso Electrics Fender / Fender Amps * TMG Favorite Gin - Citadelle Favorite Bourbon - Woodford Reserve Double Oaked Favorite Grape - Nebbiolo
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12-06-2020, 12:13 PM
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 https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guit...ay-with-bigsby Note the cream-colored guard/PU surrounds and Super Hi-lo'Tron PU's, a quick ID for a MIK second-series 5622 - the third-series Chinese stuff uses silver or gold plasticware and has full-size humbuckers in a Gretsch "blacktop" cover... Just for reference these were discontinued a few years ago, but here's mine - been my go-to gigging guitar for the last four years, gets every classic Gretsch tone you've ever heard (and a few you'll never get with any other guitar):  These usually go for about $600-700 used (BTW they also came in black and the same '65 Chevy Impala "Georgia Green" in the first pic); a bit heavy - similar to an early-70's ES-335/345/355 at 9+ pounds - so forget about those cool skinny straps most Gretsch players like, but IME every guitarist in the room will gravitate toward you as soon as you open the case... P.S.: If you're really serious (as in ready to buy right now) PM me - I might have a line on a couple unsold new-old-stock 3-PU 5622's...
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12-07-2020, 12:00 PM
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Acoustics Irvin * SCGC * Bresnan * Dyson * National Reso Electrics Fender / Fender Amps * TMG Favorite Gin - Citadelle Favorite Bourbon - Woodford Reserve Double Oaked Favorite Grape - Nebbiolo
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