The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Custom Shop

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #31  
Old 01-17-2021, 07:57 AM
cigarfan's Avatar
cigarfan cigarfan is offline
Music soothes the soul!
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Within the blast radius of Washington D.C.
Posts: 4,848
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TomB'sox View Post
We are all so OCD haha. I thought it looked like the carbon fiber rod insertion point into the side support block looks lower than before forming less of an angle? By lower of course, I mean closer to the top which I guess technically would be higher. I am sure that confused no one!
Count me lost on this one!
__________________
Life is like a box of chocolates ....
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 01-20-2021, 12:32 PM
WilbornGuitars's Avatar
WilbornGuitars WilbornGuitars is offline
AGF Sponsor
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 196
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TomB'sox View Post
I thought it looked like the carbon fiber rod insertion point into the side support block looks lower than before forming less of an angle? By lower of course, I mean closer to the top which I guess technically would be higher. I am sure that confused no one!

Tom, you are right. You must be employing your surgeon's eye, because that is a subtle thing to notice. I have changed that angle simply because I need to get my hand in there for various things, and, also, I don't want to be cursed at by tomorrow's repairmen. Although the greater angle of the rod (more towards the back) gives a greater mechanical advantage against the torque of the neck, I think the shallower angle is still more than adequate, and allows you access to the interior.
__________________
Ben Wilborn
Wilborn Guitars
www.wilbornguitars.com
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 01-21-2021, 08:05 PM
Ukulele_Eddie's Avatar
Ukulele_Eddie Ukulele_Eddie is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Posts: 438
Default

Well, well, well. We have a box. Ain't she perdy? I'm a sucker for cross-silking and its why I chose this particular T14 top.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_4568.jpg (50.0 KB, 316 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4571.jpg (63.7 KB, 314 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4570.jpg (40.7 KB, 309 views)
__________________
12-fret Small Body Addict & Sucker for Exquisite Craftsmanship
  • Doerr Trinity Select Signature Swiss Spruce/BRW
  • Wilborn Arum Tunnel 14 Redwood/Ziricote
  • Beneteau 0-12 Sitka/Mahogany
  • Martin 1931 Authentic 00-17
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 01-21-2021, 09:01 PM
TomB'sox's Avatar
TomB'sox TomB'sox is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: The Lone Star State
Posts: 10,361
Default

Sometimes the wood is so beautiful, I have no words to describe it and that Ziricote is one of those times. Holy stinking cow!!!!
__________________
PS. I love guitars!
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 01-21-2021, 09:15 PM
WilbornGuitars's Avatar
WilbornGuitars WilbornGuitars is offline
AGF Sponsor
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 196
Default

I need to color balance my photos, I guess. That redwood looks very brown in photo two, but it is more accurately shown in photo three.
__________________
Ben Wilborn
Wilborn Guitars
www.wilbornguitars.com
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 01-21-2021, 09:49 PM
Guitars44me's Avatar
Guitars44me Guitars44me is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Mountains east of San Diego
Posts: 5,065
Smile Naughtysox...

Quote:
Originally Posted by WilbornGuitars View Post
Well, I tried to come up with the right name to honor you. The Bowilus, The Soxilus, The Tomulus. The Naughtysox. They just didn't have the right ring. Sorry, pal.
Naughtysox has a nice ring to me... hahahahahaha

That cross silking on the tunnel 14 top is out of sight!!! That's RIGHT

This will be a 👀 LOOKER 👀

And no doubt sing like angels

Paul
__________________
3 KILLER John Kinnaird Customs. (I have owned 6)
R.T 2c 12 fret Custom
2016 552ce 12X12
R.Wilson Weissy
Build Thread: John Kinnaird Oversized Slope Dread 12c
A few choice 90s Taylors
budget electrics, and reso
Still Too many, but why not one more?
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 01-22-2021, 04:05 AM
cigarfan's Avatar
cigarfan cigarfan is offline
Music soothes the soul!
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Within the blast radius of Washington D.C.
Posts: 4,848
Default

Wowsers, both top and back are out of this world beautiful! Doggone it Eddie, you are making me think about a Ziricote build!
__________________
Life is like a box of chocolates ....
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 01-22-2021, 09:46 AM
Nemoman Nemoman is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: N. California
Posts: 2,636
Default

Absolutely beautimus!
__________________
Brazzie--2015 Stehr Auditorium (Adirondack/BRW)
Tigger--2013 Stehr Auditorium (Carpathian/Myrtle)
BevelBelle--Wilborn Ellie Belle (Old Stika/EIR)
Fen--2021 Kinnaird Graybeard (BC Cedar/Bog Oak)
Tres M--2020 Baranik Meridian (Colorado Blue Spruce/Manchinga)
Ariel--2020 Wilborn Arum (Tunnel 14/Cocobolo)
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 01-22-2021, 02:27 PM
jt1 jt1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,803
Default

Stunningly beautiful craft as always, Mr. Wilborn.

Thank you, Uke Eddie, for letting us vicariously experience your journey.
__________________
John
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 02-11-2021, 03:28 PM
Ukulele_Eddie's Avatar
Ukulele_Eddie Ukulele_Eddie is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Posts: 438
Default

Ben has begun the polishing phase. It's like when you can smell the cookies but they aren't yet done. You keep looking through the little oven window, "Please, hurry the hell up. That waiting is pure agony."
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_4710 (1).jpg (53.5 KB, 211 views)
__________________
12-fret Small Body Addict & Sucker for Exquisite Craftsmanship
  • Doerr Trinity Select Signature Swiss Spruce/BRW
  • Wilborn Arum Tunnel 14 Redwood/Ziricote
  • Beneteau 0-12 Sitka/Mahogany
  • Martin 1931 Authentic 00-17
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 02-11-2021, 05:38 PM
mikealpine's Avatar
mikealpine mikealpine is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 5,452
Default

Thatís gorgeous!!
__________________
---------------------------------------

2013 Joel Stehr Dreadnought - Carpathian/Malaysian BW
2014 RainSong H-OM1000N2
2017 Rainsong BI-WS1000N2
2013 Chris Ensor Concert - Port Orford Cedar/Wenge
1980ish Takamine EF363 complete with irreplaceable memories
A bunch of electrics (too many!!)
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 02-12-2021, 09:11 AM
BlackKeys36 BlackKeys36 is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Rockwall, TX
Posts: 202
Default

Looking awesome, Eddie! Can't wait for the video of yours!
__________________
- john
2021 Kinnaird 000-12
2021 Wilborn Nautilus
2020 Kinnaird Deep OM Student Build
2011 FE Tellier SJ
2004 Taylor 414CE Limited
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 02-12-2021, 10:11 AM
Nemoman Nemoman is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: N. California
Posts: 2,636
Default

Shazam, Eddie--this is really looking fantastic!

You must be overjoyed--won't be too long now!
__________________
Brazzie--2015 Stehr Auditorium (Adirondack/BRW)
Tigger--2013 Stehr Auditorium (Carpathian/Myrtle)
BevelBelle--Wilborn Ellie Belle (Old Stika/EIR)
Fen--2021 Kinnaird Graybeard (BC Cedar/Bog Oak)
Tres M--2020 Baranik Meridian (Colorado Blue Spruce/Manchinga)
Ariel--2020 Wilborn Arum (Tunnel 14/Cocobolo)
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 02-15-2021, 01:00 PM
Ukulele_Eddie's Avatar
Ukulele_Eddie Ukulele_Eddie is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Posts: 438
Default A Little Bump in the Road

Well, a bit of an update here. Ben was polishing that gorgeous ziricote back to a glorious luster, whistling while he admired the beauty of this fine specimen of a guitar. And then he saw it. No, not his handsome reflection. Well, yes, he saw that, too. What was "it"? Well, I guess it was more of a "them" than an "it." Small disturbances in the reflection of the overhead light. It meant only one thing: fault lines under the lacquer, destined to be cracks some day when they grow up.

Double. Rat. Farts.

Ben called and left a message of distress and also followed up by email to update me on this unfortunate event. I know that wood is organic. It can happen. And some woods are more crack-prone than others. I know luthiers who won't build with ziricote as they call it Mexican Crackwood. Too risky.

He offered a couple of options. Cleating them would likely solve this once and for all. But neither of us liked that option for obvious reasons. A repair out of the gate on such a fine guitar just seems, well, not right. Ben didn't want this but knew how much I loved that back. I could tell Ben didn't feel good about this option and I certainly didn't.

So we decided the best path forward would be to replace the back. From his current stock, we quickly narrowed the section to two fine looking backs that would match color-wise, Z8 and Z162. Both are incredibly lovely, but, sadly, neither has pronounced sapwood, which I had my heart set on. He even checked what was available from his trusted suppliers. Nothing close. Broader internet search. Nada.

Ironically, the next day the fault lines were not invisible. That's right. Not visible. At all. Ben believes they may have shown themselves because of the heat of the buffing wheel. But he knows they are there. And if the guitar was shipped like this it would drive him mad like the beating heart in Edgar Allen Poe's The Tell-Tale Heart.

So, we discussed reserving either Z8 or Z162 and then keeping an eye on the market for a set more similar to the current back. I have no problem waiting, even a year or more, if it might yield a back more like the current one. This is a dream guitar for me, so why rush it? Besides, maybe in a year I'll be able to play something musical. And Ben had no problem waiting, either. He wants every one of his customers to be ecstatic.

While some luthiers would have been happy to put aside the box and move on to something else, it gnawed at Ben. He dialed up the secret Top Tier Luthier "Bat Light" and sent out a distress signal. Would anyone respond?

Voila! A set that looks like a possible excellent match was found. It's the horizontal pic (not sure why it shows that way). Better yet, it's not all that far from him and has been in this luthier's climate-controlled stash for more than 10 years. Ben will take the current guitar box with him and compare in person to see if we have our donor back. If we do, fantabulous.

If we don't, I don't mind waiting though I worry Ben will go absolutely mad searching the ends of the globe for just the right piece. The story might end with the good news that I finally got my dream Ziricote Arum. The bad news would be it was the last guitar Ben would complete. Driven entirely mad by the epic journey, he would eventually live a sad life in the shadows of Mordor, hanging with Gollum, muttering about "My Precious".

Story to be continued... ;-)
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Fault Lines IMG_4712.jpg (45.8 KB, 144 views)
File Type: jpg Z8 - IMG_4720.jpg (53.4 KB, 148 views)
File Type: jpg Z162 - IMG_4722.jpg (48.3 KB, 147 views)
File Type: jpg Possible Replacment - IMG_2192.jpg (34.7 KB, 143 views)
__________________
12-fret Small Body Addict & Sucker for Exquisite Craftsmanship
  • Doerr Trinity Select Signature Swiss Spruce/BRW
  • Wilborn Arum Tunnel 14 Redwood/Ziricote
  • Beneteau 0-12 Sitka/Mahogany
  • Martin 1931 Authentic 00-17

Last edited by Ukulele_Eddie; 02-15-2021 at 11:51 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 02-15-2021, 01:06 PM
TomB'sox's Avatar
TomB'sox TomB'sox is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: The Lone Star State
Posts: 10,361
Default

I am sorry to hear about this, for both of you. Is the piece pictured on the bottom right the potential replacement back?

It does look like 162 has some sapwood or is that just lighter colored?
__________________
PS. I love guitars!

Last edited by TomB'sox; 02-15-2021 at 01:14 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Custom Shop

Tags
arum, wilborn, ziricote

Thread Tools





All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=