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This maybe a not very novel thread but I thought i would show a set that i recently (like today) got from merry old England. Its Bog Oak and dates from 3500 BC. This wood fell into the fens and bogs and was preserved by the acidic conditions and has recently been resurrected and cut into quartered sawn sets and lumber.
It taps out like most oak, that is to say about like hard maple. I think this is going to make an interesting guitar. I might pare it with a tunnel redwood top. Thanks to Han for turning me on to this wood.

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I've seen a number of oak guitars from British luthiers (online). Not so many from American luthiers. But then bog oak is most likely a very different animal.
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I love the story with Bog Oak, and it sure isn't hard on the eyes. Look forward to seeing what you do with it John!
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Looks very nice John!
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You know this is coming: I want some!
Several British luthiers are using it even for fretboards so it must also be fairly hard. Sometimes ranging to almost black in color, it is an attractive substitute for the usual exotics.

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I am with SK:

"You know this is coming: I want some!"

Bog oak! Sweet! And Both ends of the Kinnaird Conglomerate are already well experienced with other types of Oak.

Notice how Bogie, and Boogie are so similar? Could there be a reason???

How can I want another when I don't even have the newest yet?

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I swear that's a new lyric coming any day now to a song from me

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Makes one wonder if there are any bog trees somewhere in the Piedmont.
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I just discovered that if you guys click on the picture that John attached, you will be brought to his smugmug album and the other set that John has ... words fail me ... someone commission it right now before I do something rash
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I've seen a number of oak guitars from British luthiers (online). Not so many from American luthiers. But then bog oak is most likely a very different animal.
Who knows. This cost about 200 pounds if you are in England

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I’m wondering what to do with it myself
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Several British luthiers are using it even for fretboards so it must also be fairly hard. Sometimes ranging to almost black in color, it is an attractive substitute for the usual exotics.

Steve
Yes indeed bro it does come in black. I just happened to have one of those too. It’s so dark it’s hard to see the quartered sawn oak pattern but it’s there.
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I just discovered that if you guys click on the picture that John attached, you will be brought to his smugmug album and the other set that John has ... words fail me ... someone commission it right now before I do something rash
Han you have no one to blame but yourself. Had you not put me on to this I would not now be in possession of two sets of wood that I need like I need a another hole in my head.😀
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Bending woods, bending minds. Wow, amazing. Wonder what that tree looked like all those years ago. Was it a scratching post for a Wooly mammoth? A tree house for a scimitar-toothed cat?

I recall putting in a mable counter top in my old house and then looking up the geologic age of marble which was 65M to 300M years ago. Blew my mind that I could actually own it. 300 million years old and it was mine, all MINE. And I was going to use it to support a fruit bowl and a coffee station.

I will stop before I digress into the topic of stardust. I mean, how many stars sent raw material to make our world? Oops, digressed but I am going to guess 832 million over say 5 billion years and a few of them contributed to the bog wood tree guitar now in front of us.

Nicce project! I will follow.
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Bending woods, bending minds. Wow, amazing. Wonder what that tree looked like all those years ago. Was it a scratching post for a Wooly mammoth? A tree house for a scimitar-toothed cat?

I recall putting in a mable counter top in my old house and then looking up the geologic age of marble which was 65M to 300M years ago. Blew my mind that I could actually own it. 300 million years old and it was mine, all MINE. And I was going to use it to support a fruit bowl and a coffee station.

I will stop before I digress into the topic of stardust. I mean, how many stars sent raw material to make our world? Oops, digressed but I am going to guess 832 million over say 5 billion years and a few of them contributed to the bog wood tree guitar now in front of us.


Nicce project! I will follow.
I know what you mean Jmat. I look at some of these tunnel 14 tops and count the rings which are so close together that its an impossible task and then think of the fact that it supported tunnel walls for ages, got thrown out of the tunnel during renovation down a steep embankment and left to rot and then was resurrected and cut into guitar tops and shipped east to my shop. What a long and interesting and torturous history. I hope the next stage of its saga does it justice.
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I know very little about this esoteric topic, but it's fascinating just the same. Thanks for letting us follow along, John. Larry
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I know very little about this esoteric topic, but it's fascinating just the same. Thanks for letting us follow along, John. Larry
Sure thing Larry

Here is a typical log coming up for air

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