UAD Apollo Twin MKII and Logic Pro X - getting them to work together

[Bookstorecowboy]

Hi, I have up to date UAD Apollo Twin MKII and up to date Logic Pro X. I can get the vocal or other sound I want in Console, but it doesn't print onto the Logic recording even if I set it to UAD Rec.
Any suggestions? It sounds great in Console, but that's no good by itself.
I'm running all the UAD apps inside Console, which was the idea of getting the unit, so that there would be no lags or usage problems.

[keith.rogers]

I don't know about that stuff (saw this question elsewhere), but if you're using the Control app, have you set the [Apollo/Console] "virtual" inputs and outputs in Logic, or are you set to use the *interface's* inputs and outputs?

[Bookstorecowboy]

I'm using Console, not Logic. So I try to set it up in Console. The reason is that this is supposed to be very low latency.

[jim1960]

Did you try not using Console and, if you did, was latency an issue?

[Bookstorecowboy]

Yes, and the main problem was constantly running out of resources. When you use the resources of Console, you do not have to worry about that.
Latency is not a problem for keyboards, but it is a problem for voice.

[jim1960]

Originally Posted by Bookstorecowboy

Yes, and the main problem was constantly running out of resources. When you use the resources of Console, you do not have to worry about that.
Latency is not a problem for keyboards, but it is a problem for voice.

What are you calling "resources"?

[Bookstorecowboy]

Basically you run out of power. You can only use so many plugins at one time.

[keith.rogers]

Originally Posted by Bookstorecowboy

Basically you run out of power. You can only use so many plugins at one time.

Please take a screenshot of your Logic settings showing which inputs and outputs you are using and post that here. And, you'll need to show which specific (numbered) inputs are assigned to your recording tracks, too.

[KevWind]

Originally Posted by Bookstorecowboy

Hi, I have up to date UAD Apollo Twin MKII and up to date Logic Pro X. I can get the vocal or other sound I want in Console, but it doesn't print onto the Logic recording even if I set it to UAD Rec.
Any suggestions? It sounds great in Console, but that's no good by itself.
I'm running all the UAD apps inside Console, which was the idea of getting the unit, so that there would be no lags or usage problems.

Unfortunately I do not use any Apollo gear. So not much help there
But in general, in order to streamline any help suggestions, it works much better if you go into your "User CP' (control panel) go to "Signature"and list your system (see mine below) this precludes numbers of the inevitable qualifying questions necessary to give informed suggestions
And the screen shot suggestions is spot on also (providing you know how get clear not blurry screen shots posted)

Because for example (all else being equal ) if your Mac is not ancient and very RAM limited ---you should not be getting any running out of CPU warnings

[keith.rogers]

Originally Posted by KevWind

Unfortunately I do not use any Apollo gear. So not much help there
But in order to streamline any help suggestions It works much better if you go into your "User CP' (control panel) go to "Signature"and list your system (see mine below) this precludes numbers of the inevitable qualifying questions necessary to give informed suggestions
And the screen shot suggestions is spot on also (providing you know how get clear not blurry screen shots posted)

Because for example (all else being equal ) if your Mac is not ancient and very RAM limited ---you should not be getting any running out of CPU warnings

Kev, I was using a 2017 iMac until recently, and before that a 2012 Mac Mini, and hitting resource limits is rare, but not impossible, depending entirely on the plugins being used, and also to some degree the project file location (HDD, SSD) and connection/bus speed. But you know that. OP's desire is to use the UAD "firmware" plugins he's hearing in console and record the "wet" signal. I did RTFM for the software and it appears you need to use some virtual paths to capture that audio, but not being a UAD user, I could not confirm it. The cowboy needs to open the kimono a bit, to mix some metaphors, because we're just guessing, IMHO. (Regardless, I'd still suggest recording both the wet and dry tracks on separate tracks, and experiment with setting the same plugs on the dry track, turned off, and then maybe turn them on for mixing, where latency is not an issue. But, that would just be me...)

[jim1960]

Originally Posted by Bookstorecowboy

Basically you run out of power. You can only use so many plugins at one time.

That's because you're running out of dsp and that happens the same whether you use Console or you use your daw.

UA plugins run off the dsp in Apollo interfaces, UA satellites, and/or UA accelerator cards (the latter two are only useful for mixing). The amount of dsp in your system limits how many plugin instances you can use. For some of their plugins, UA has native versions which don't rely on dsp but I'm unsure if those can be used in Console during recording; I suspect not.

Here's UA's usage chart that shows how much dsp each plugin instance takes up:
https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/art...AD-2-DSP-Chart

Just out of curiosity, and this has no effect on dsp usage, what computer are you using and what are it's specs (cpu and ram)?

[jim1960]

Originally Posted by KevWind

Because for example (all else being equal ) if your Mac is not ancient and very RAM limited ---you should not be getting any running out of CPU warnings

His complaint is about only being able to "use so many plugins at one time." Since he's referring to UAD plugins inside of UA Console while recording, that points to a complaint about limited dsp in his Apollo interface. His computer doesn't affect that. He's limited by having just two dsp chips in his interface.

[BillyH]

Originally Posted by jim1960

His complaint is about only being able to "use so many plugins at one time." Since he's referring to UAD plugins inside of UA Console while recording, that points to a complaint about limited dsp in his Apollo interface. His computer doesn't affect that. He's limited by having just two dsp chips in his interface.

This is correct.

Billy

[keith.rogers]

I read the OP's initial post as simply that he could not record in Logic what he was hearing in the Console app monitoring. Yes, he's using the Console app and DSP FX because using FX in the DAW incurs latency, but I didn't read the ask as what was wrong with his computer, but why he couldn't simply record what he was hearing.

[ms3]

Originally Posted by Bookstorecowboy

Hi, I have up to date UAD Apollo Twin MKII and up to date Logic Pro X. I can get the vocal or other sound I want in Console, but it doesn't print onto the Logic recording even if I set it to UAD Rec.
Any suggestions? It sounds great in Console, but that's no good by itself.
I'm running all the UAD apps inside Console, which was the idea of getting the unit, so that there would be no lags or usage problems.

Me too, Keith. I think it's a routing issue in the DAW as you alluded to.