The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Build and Repair

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 11-22-2019, 12:56 PM
JayBee1404's Avatar
JayBee1404 JayBee1404 is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: England
Posts: 5,072
Default Another Pick-Guard Removal Question...

I’m considering removing the pickguard from a guitar which is finished with two-pack acid-catalysed lacquer.

Does anyone have any experience of removing a pickguard from this kind of finish? Are there any pitfalls, things to look out for, things not to do? I’ve removed guards from Martin nitro-finish guitars, but never two-pack A/C lacquer, and I don’t want to mess things up!
__________________
John

Brook ‘Lamorna’ OM (European Spruce/EIR) (2019)
Lowden F-23 (Red Cedar/Claro Walnut) (2017)
Martin D-18 (2012)
Martin HD-28V (2010)
Fender Standard Strat (2017-MIM)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-22-2019, 12:58 PM
jazzguy jazzguy is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Charlotte NC
Posts: 1,390
Default

I know nothing about the lacquer's etc. but unless the guitar is brand new, you almost certainly will have a visible "tan line" where the pickguard was located.
__________________
Taylor 512ce Urban Ironbark
Fender Special Edition Stratocaster
Eastman SB59
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-22-2019, 01:03 PM
JayBee1404's Avatar
JayBee1404 JayBee1404 is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: England
Posts: 5,072
Default

Meant to say, I’ve removed several pickguards from guitars, and I know all about tan-lines! This is a brand new guitar, so tan-line shouldn’t be a problem, but thanks for pointing out the possibility.
__________________
John

Brook ‘Lamorna’ OM (European Spruce/EIR) (2019)
Lowden F-23 (Red Cedar/Claro Walnut) (2017)
Martin D-18 (2012)
Martin HD-28V (2010)
Fender Standard Strat (2017-MIM)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-22-2019, 01:14 PM
ctvolfan ctvolfan is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Knoxville Tennessee
Posts: 616
Default

I removed one from a brand new Taylor 317e back in June and it already had a tan line. I have decided to sell it so I ordered a replacement pick guard and put it back on it. So just know you can always cover it back up if there is one.
__________________
2021 Eastman E10SS SB
2021 Eastman E8D TC
1972 Yamaha FG-180 Red Label (Taiwan)
2019 Yamaha FGx5
2020 Yamaha AC3M Deluxe
2019 Yamaha FG800
2005 Taylor 214
Ibanez AEB10E Acoustic Bass
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-22-2019, 02:09 PM
tomcstokes59 tomcstokes59 is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: MN
Posts: 1,108
Default Contact the guitar manufacturer

They may have a recommendation on what can be used. I have only done guitars with nitro finish
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-22-2019, 02:24 PM
Ncbandit Ncbandit is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 400
Default

Not sure about your finish but I recently removed mine from my new Eastman E1SS-LTD and had no problems. I took a hairy dryer for a few minutes and peeled it off. Than I took a small amount of WD-40 on a rag to get any residue off. All you can do is try and if your finish is affected buy another pick guard to cover it. I would bet you have no issues though.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-22-2019, 04:27 PM
JayBee1404's Avatar
JayBee1404 JayBee1404 is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: England
Posts: 5,072
Default

Apologies for starting this thread in the wrong section!

Really, my only worry is about, for instance, the possibility of a reaction of the finish to naphtha, heat etc. I’ve removed a number of pickguards from nitro finishes using naphtha, heat, etc, but this will be my first experience with two-pack A/C lacquer.

I’m not sure that I’m going to go ahead, just trying to take soundings on the experiences of anyone who’s removed pickguards from this kind of finish. If I go ahead, the decision whether or not to replace the pickguard will be taken when I see how it looks without.
__________________
John

Brook ‘Lamorna’ OM (European Spruce/EIR) (2019)
Lowden F-23 (Red Cedar/Claro Walnut) (2017)
Martin D-18 (2012)
Martin HD-28V (2010)
Fender Standard Strat (2017-MIM)

Last edited by JayBee1404; 11-22-2019 at 04:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-22-2019, 07:48 PM
mirwa mirwa is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 3,109
Default

I just replied with photos on the other thread

https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=564442

Steve
__________________
Cole Clark Fat Lady
Gretsch Electromatic
Martin CEO7
Maton Messiah
Taylor 814CE
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-23-2019, 12:26 AM
JayBee1404's Avatar
JayBee1404 JayBee1404 is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: England
Posts: 5,072
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mirwa View Post
I just replied with photos on the other thread

https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=564442

Steve
Thanks Steve - was that guitar finished with the two-pack a/c lacquer I’m asking about, or is it nitro?

As I’ve said a couple of times, I’m well acquainted with removing and replacing pickguards on nitro-finished instruments, and I’ve used the heat, naphtha, and dental-floss methods in the past, but what I’m asking for is advice on removing a guard from a guitar finished with two-pack acid-catalysed lacquer - this is a finish that I have no previous experience of, and I’m just trying to find out if there are any pitfalls I need to be aware of.

Thanks anyway for your post and the photos.
__________________
John

Brook ‘Lamorna’ OM (European Spruce/EIR) (2019)
Lowden F-23 (Red Cedar/Claro Walnut) (2017)
Martin D-18 (2012)
Martin HD-28V (2010)
Fender Standard Strat (2017-MIM)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-23-2019, 12:45 AM
mirwa mirwa is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 3,109
Default

If its 2 Pack, then its pretty well impervious to everything, acetone, thinners, any cleaning compound will not damage it

Just make sure you know exactly what the finish is before utilising any cleaning product

I never go by the manufacturer, I always test, you have no idea what has happened to that guitar from when it left the factory, including being new on a shelf in a music store

Steve
__________________
Cole Clark Fat Lady
Gretsch Electromatic
Martin CEO7
Maton Messiah
Taylor 814CE
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-23-2019, 05:16 AM
John Arnold John Arnold is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,082
Default

Naphtha is safe for any finish I have used it on. You may be able to rub off the glue and not use a solvent, but it can be hard on the fingertips. Remaining glue residue can be removed with a rubbing compound. I use Mother's Mag and Aluminum Polish.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-23-2019, 05:31 AM
JayBee1404's Avatar
JayBee1404 JayBee1404 is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: England
Posts: 5,072
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mirwa View Post
If its 2 Pack, then its pretty well impervious to everything, acetone, thinners, any cleaning compound will not damage it Just make sure you know exactly what the finish is before utilising any cleaning product
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arnold View Post
Naphtha is safe for any finish I have used it on. You may be able to rub off the glue and not use a solvent, but it can be hard on the fingertips. Remaining glue residue can be removed with a rubbing compound. I use Mother's Mag and Aluminum Polish.
Thank you, Steve and John - much appreciated.
I’ve spoken to the builder already, so I know it’s 2-pack. If I decide to go ahead, I think I’ll use my wife’s hairdryer (don’t have one of my own - no hair to need drying!) 😱😂
Glad to hear that naphtha is a safe bet for cleanup once the guard’s off.
__________________
John

Brook ‘Lamorna’ OM (European Spruce/EIR) (2019)
Lowden F-23 (Red Cedar/Claro Walnut) (2017)
Martin D-18 (2012)
Martin HD-28V (2010)
Fender Standard Strat (2017-MIM)
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Build and Repair

Thread Tools





All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=