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Old 10-02-2019, 06:49 PM
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Hey recording gang.

What is the going price of a Neumann U67 mic ? Any opinions on it ?

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Old 10-02-2019, 07:41 PM
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For a vintage U67 you're looking at $9K plus. Neumann has a reissue but it's a brighter mic than the originals and I think it's missed the mark. I've yet to hear a clone made by anyone that has nailed the 67 sound or even come close to nailing it. I know Heiserman Audio has a 67 in the works. He thinks he can pull it off in the $2500-$3000 range but there's no time estimate on when that might happen. People love the 47 he came out with so I have some hope. I'd really like to add a 67 to my mic locker ...just not willing to plop down $9-10K for one.
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Old 10-02-2019, 08:57 PM
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Wow..... that is a lot of cash.

Just took a quick listen to a few of your songs. Got inspired............
Will take a closer listen tomorrow. I really like what I heard.

Thanks for your reply Jim.

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Old 10-02-2019, 09:06 PM
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I've never heard two original 67's that sounded alike. The reissues do, and I like them. If I had the money I'd get one.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:32 PM
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Wow..... that is a lot of cash.
That it is. A vintage U47 will set you back even more. And if you ever need to change the VF14 tube, you're looking at $2k or more because suitable NOS pieces that are good enough for the mic are near impossible to find.

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Just took a quick listen to a few of your songs. Got inspired............
Will take a closer listen tomorrow. I really like what I heard.

Thanks for your reply Jim.l
Daniel, thank you very much and you're welcome.

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I've never heard two original 67's that sounded alike. The reissues do, and I like them. If I had the money I'd get one.
That is true of most vintage microphones but the good 67s I've heard have al been on the darker side of what we're used to today. The real magic happens in how well they take EQ.

My words shouldn't be taken to mean the Neumann reissue is a bad mic. It just doesn't sound like a vintage 67 to me. But at $7K, I think there are better options ...one of them being saving up another $2-3k and buying a vintage 67.
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The New Reissue Neumann U67 runs about $6500 to $6999 street price

As noted vintage are said to all sound somewhat different but are excellent if you find a good on but are spendy.

I have sung through a vintage U47 that was superb.

I have sung through a Clone by ADK a Z Mod 67 that was pretty darn nice ,
but in a direct shootout I choose the ADK Z Mod 251.... for my voice , ADK 's take On the Telefunken 251 ELAM

ADK Z Mod are normally $2999 but on sale right now At Front End Audio for $2368
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It's the mic that Arif Mardin used to capture Norah Jones on the breakout album, Come Away With Me. And yes, they are fickle individualists. After the album went over big, Norah sneaked back to Sorcerer Sound, the studio in New York where they recorded vocals, and begged them to sell her the mic she sang on... and they graciously did. By reputation, U-67s are just as individual as Gibson guitars...

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It's the mic that Arif Mardin used to capture Norah Jones on the breakout album, Come Away With Me. And yes, they are fickle individualists. After the album went over big, Norah sneaked back to Sorcerer Sound, the studio in New York where they recorded vocals, and begged them to sell her the mic she sang on... and they graciously did. By reputation, U-67s are just as individual as Gibson guitars...

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From what I've heard, that was an M49, not a U67.
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From what I've heard, that was an M49, not a U67.
That's funny because the first time I heard the album I said M49 to myself. That upper mid rip reminded me of it.


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Old 10-03-2019, 01:53 PM
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I own a reissue U67. Expensive, but I sold some mics to make it possible: U87, vintage C414, Brauner Phantom, Gefell UM900. And now that I have it I do not miss the other mics. Got tired of the harshness in the U87, the hissiness in the Brauner, C414 and Gefell UM900 were great, but I needed the extra cash.One mic I did not sell is the U89 - love its dark and smooth performance.

As expected the U67 is great on any source and takes EQ very well. Most of the time no EQ needed.

Even had the opportunity to audition before buying and compared it to a well maintained vintage U67 (I know they all can sound a bit different). I wanted a darker mic, and the reissue U67 is it for me. Pretty close to the vintage, definetely not brighter. But maybe the vintage U67 was on the bright side of sonic life.
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... maybe the vintage U67 was on the bright side of sonic life.
I'd say that, on average, the original 67's were a bit brighter than the 47's. And had less of that low-mid "meatball." The early Supertramp records sound to me like lots of 67's were used on them (don't know if that's true or not).
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Old 10-04-2019, 03:43 PM
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My friend has a home studio and uses a Behringer B-1 and C-2. I think they sound good for what we record. ( acoustic guitar and electric guitar )

Would we notice a difference if we invested in more expensive equipment ?

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I'd say that, on average, the original 67's were a bit brighter than the 47's. And had less of that low-mid "meatball." The early Supertramp records sound to me like lots of 67's were used on them (don't know if that's true or not).
Microphone guru, the late Stephen Paul, had mentioned that no matter what he did to massage a 67, he couldn't get performance above 12.5 kHz from it.
That statement and the frequency response graphs I've seen twixt the 2 mics would lead me to believe that the 47 would sound brighter.

(Years ago, I had the long-term use of a friend's original U67. It became my favorite mic for vocals.)
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Microphone guru, the late Stephen Paul, had mentioned that no matter what he did to massage a 67, he couldn't get performance above 12.5 kHz from it.
That statement and the frequency response graphs I've seen twixt the 2 mics would lead me to believe that the 47 would sound brighter.
I worked in a place that had 11 U47s and 4 U67s. Worked with others since then, but mainly basing my opinion on that.

As for perceived brightness, I think many people would call a Fender Blues Jr. an especially bright amp. Ice-picky, even, in the wrong hands. Nothing coming out of a Blues Jr. is higher than 5k.
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Old 10-05-2019, 06:55 AM
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The U-47 has a presence peak at around 7k specifically designed to make a voice stick out from an orchestra when they are mic'd with that single mic. It works. The U-67 is designed for a different task and has a different curve.

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