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Is this for gigging, or just home use? I didn't notice it if you explained.
The one *pitfall* in your quest is the bass guitar. Some 12" powered PA speakers don't sound bad with bass, as long as you are not trying to get loud or too punchy - and not trying to have other things through the speaker at the same time (vocals, etc). Some, though, provide a very anemic bass sound - there's a reason bass speaker cabinets are bigger/deeper. A keyboard through a 12" PA speaker is fine - but 10" tend to have the low end drop off badly. Electric guitar, use a good pedalboard or modeler (go for the Helix if you've got the money and you'll never drag a tube amp around again).
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If size and weight are a concern, take a look at the Yamaha THR10 or THR10C. This is a small but capable modeling amp that has a headphone/line-out jack to plug in to your mixer or powered speaker. No, it doesn't give you exactly the sound of a tube amp, but it's pretty good, and you can edit the settings with a Windows PC or Mac and save up to five presets.
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It’s possible to do a unified setup - I’ve got one that uses a 1U acoustic preamp and a 1U mutlifx unit. It’s great for acoustic and completely workable for electric, and it reduces the load to a rack and the instruments (assuming you’re plugging into a PA).
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I can't stand menus and sub menus and USB and deep editing. I spend way too much time in front of screens already. And I don't like "hidden functionality." In my experience even though it seems more intimidating first I like the "what you see is what you get" interfaces and well-designed, purpose-driven equipment that doesn't allow (let alone require!) editing dozens of parameters to get me to the sounds I'm after. Also a big factor: I run Linux exclusively, which pretty much excludes all that "patch manager" software. I have even avoided anything with "internal DIP switches" and the like. The exception is the XD-2 which has an attenuator for its boost function, but that is easily accessible through the battery door and pretty much "set and forget" (or just forget Quote:
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When playing electric, I run the pre and post gain at 3 o'clock on the tube pre to over drive the tube. I run those at 12 o'clock for acoustic usually.
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I just wanted to give a brief update here. I am narrowing down my amplification.
I am having good luck with my solidstate pedalboard setup running into a bass amp (Ashdown OriginAL C112) or an acoustic amp (Traynor AM Standard and Roland AC-33). The keyboard also sounds great running through those amps! (though that doesn't surprise me). No current access to a PA system to test the pedalboard that way. I am pretty sure I will be selling my Vox AV30 + FS8, and my 1958 Gibson Skylark GA-5 with custom 1x8 extension cab. It's a one trick pony that does one or two really nice tricks and I like the idea of it more than the actual sound, although everyone else raves about it when they hear it...it's nothing that I don't feel like I can get out of my Rivera Ch2 (the "american" channel). I am not sure I will be selling my Rivera Chubster, though. Every time I plug into it it just sounds so right. So it will come down to whether or not I could consider my pedalboard preamp (Brimstone XD-2 > RevivalDrive Compact > EQ2 (Tech21 Q/Strip) > CabDryVR) my primary sound. I haven't had a chance to play it in context of a band mix. The Rivera does such a good job of keeping the guitar present without it being overbearing or muddy, my goal is to be able to get that across multiple gain stages with the pedalboard. But life keeps getting in the way! I'd like to say that pandemics gave me time to sort through all this but I've just gotten busier in a lot of ways... |
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I think that adding a FRFR (like a Line6 Powercab) to my Yamaha THR 30ii would make for a wonderful unified electric/acoustic rig!
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Helix and FRFR will cover all the bases, or basses, as the case may be.
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Have those of you who use the "all in one" pedals like the Helix found them accessible with a fairly reasonable learning curve?
I really like the physical simplicity of having a single piece of hardware, which is also relatively compact and lightweight. But I don't like the *lack* of limitations. I have a tendency to explore the gear I have *inside and out* and I feel like I would get completely lost in something like the Helix. I feel like I thrive from imposed limitations and the idea of "limitless flexibility and potential" in any gear gives me a bit of anxiety! It's for that reason that I am mostly an acoustic player, and I only ever plug in when practice or performance requires it. The limitations keep me focused on the core elements of the music: groove, rhythm, melody, harmony, timbre, etc. Even electric guitar itself can feel like a distraction at times...! My "analog-style" pedalboard is a way to keep me focused, just enough to give me sounds I hear in my head. |
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I ran my THR10II into two Yamaha DBR10's and it was killer!!!
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