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10-09-2014, 07:51 PM
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A really stupid way to learn, but it works for me
I have Guitar Pro 5. I take the section of song that is giving me a problem and type it into guitar pro. I slow the temp down to like 20 beats a minute. This is so slow that it puts the dog to sleep, but it works for me. I also make the section repeat itself a few times.
I'm memorizing the section and actually speeding it up after about 15 minutes. Stupid old guy tricks work everytime, 
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10-09-2014, 08:26 PM
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I disagree with you in that it is a stupid way to do it. I use a metronome and do some tough parts are 60bpm with each note being a while note. I then work my way up as I start to get it. It may take me a while but doing it this slow I can usually get it and end up at the speed I want with this slow deliberate practice.
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10-09-2014, 08:42 PM
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10-09-2014, 08:48 PM
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And/or you can use a recording of the song and use software like Transcribe!, AnyTune, Capo, Amazing Slow Downer, etc. to play the song at pitch but more slowly. Some of these programs will automatically speed up slightly on each repetition.
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10-09-2014, 10:54 PM
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I also don't think it's stupid. I take things ridiculously slow when first learning them. Maybe I'm an old guy too (53) 
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10-10-2014, 12:05 AM
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This is the normal way to do it. Isolate problem sections and work them slowly until they are comfortable.
The opposite is to keep playing the whole thing over and over, stumbling at the rough spots, which is a massive waste of time.
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10-10-2014, 12:06 PM
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I agree! This is the most effective way to learn a new challenge. Walk before you run, then fast walk, then trot, then gallop. yours in tune, amyFB
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10-10-2014, 12:18 PM
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Try to apply what you learn in one song to the next song. If that does not work well for you then spend more time on basic techniques.
Each new song you learn should not be a big chore, other than memorizing it.
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10-13-2014, 11:27 AM
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I do that all the time with guitar pro. I like to loop the section that's giving me trouble and start it at 50% tempo and then have the program increase it by 2 or 3% each loop. If I'm practicing fast runs I keep the tempo at 50% and do small bursts with full speed. This helps you unite your technique between fast and slow. We tend to tense up for the fast parts, a natural response by the body. This can become a roadblock to advance, tension shouldn't be present no matter how hard the part is.
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10-13-2014, 01:17 PM
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The worst part about playing it too fast and stumbling is that you train your hands to play it badly. Called muscle memory, and you want your muscles to remember how to play it properly. It's hard to unlearn something learned badly.
That's a basic rule in classical training. Most of us self taught folks don't figure it out until much later, and after much frustration. Been playing pretty close to 10 years before I took some classical lessons and had it explained to me. Duh.
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