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Must have UAD plug ins?
Just want to see what everyone feels are absolutely necessary plug ins for vocals and acoustic guitars for UAD Apollo.
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I'm not sure there's a bad choice. On guitar, I often use the LA-2 compressor. The tape emulators are useful, I have the Ampex ATR-102. I also find the SPL Vitalizer useful sometimes. All the reverbs are good. I often use the Capital Chambers,EMT 250, or Lexicon 480. The Pultec EQs are nice as are the Neve EQs. but really, it depends on what you like and what you need, I'm not sure there are any to stay away from.
Unless you're in a rush, look for their twice a year sale, where you can get 4 plugins for about the price of 1 or 2, depending on that you get. Good for getting the more expensive ones.
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This is not the best time to buy most of the UA plugins. There are two big sales they run every year. One in June (you just missed it) and another for Black Friday. During those sales, they have enhanced custom bundles at a discount:
4 plugins for $399 8 for $699 13 for $999 So for this 50% off sale, any plugin that will cost you more than $100 can be had cheaper in November if you include it in a custom bundle in November.
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Not for recording but for mastering: I use their Precision Limiter in my mastering chain and it is fantastic.
Bob
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I have no idea how to master, I am just coming from using a Scarlett to a Apollo with some bare bones recording
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I don't use a ton of UA plugins these days but the ones I use most in mixing are:
1176 Ampex ATR-102 Fairchild Ocean Way Studios (for re-micing on vst instruments) Pultec Teletronix LA-2A Capital Chambers is a more recent addition than the others so I haven't used it a ton but it's an amazing reverb. Just for poops and giggles, last year I did a quick mix of a song with Capital Chambers on every track. It's a really lush and beautiful sounding reverb. Chandler Curve Bender is on every master I do. I love this plugin so much that I'm not sure I'll be able to resist buying a real Curve Bender some day.
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UA
I used to own a UAD2 Quad and most of their plugins. When I started having Windows driver issues with the UAD2 PCIe card, and received extremely poor customer service from UA, I sold all my UA gear and plugins.
I switched to Plugin Alliance, and have been extremely happy. They just started a Mega bundle where you get access to 100+ quality plugins (totaling $19,000) for only $249 per year. Their plugins are every bit as good as the UA plugins and you can use them all for a year for the price of one UA plugin. No extra hardware required either. They also have 75% off sales on individual plugins regularly if you prefer to own them instead of being on the yearly plan. I am not affiliated with Plugin Alliance in any way. I am just a happy customer. Here is their website: https://www.plugin-alliance.com/ If you do stick with UA, I would definitely try the Manley Massive Passive EQ for acoustic guitar. That, and their plate reverbs, were my favorites. Good luck whichever way you go.
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In general while nothing is "absolutely necessary" for guitar and vocals you will likely eventually "want". In no particular order of importance #1 multi-band EQ with movable bands and Q (width) adjustment # 2 a compressor with ratio, attack, and release time, adjustments #3 a good reverb with user definable pre delay time and reverb length adjustment (run in parallel) # 4 a look ahead brick wall limiter for final mastering (understanding that only in simplistic general terms, "Mastering" is simply getting the final mix ready for publication) So unless you send your mixes out to a pro Mastering engineer, it could be said you will either intentionally or by omission, be "mastering"
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You know you can try any plugin free for 2 weeks, right? So I'd just try any you think are interesting before you buy. Then when you buy something, it resets the trial status, so you can try anything again for 2 more weeks.
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For a parametric EQ, the Cambridge EQ is nice, and I think it may be one of the free bundled plugins? I don't tend to use much EQ on guitar, at least, and when I do, I tend to favor the EQs with "color", like the Neve 1073 or the Pultec. For just straight, clean EQ, the channel EQ in Logic works fine, and whatever DAW you have probably has one as well. UAD has at least a dozen compressors. Personally, the one I find most useful is the LA2, which is an opto-style compressor and does not have the controls Kev suggests. But it just sounds good on everything. Reverbs are one of UADs strong points, again, about a dozen emulations of classic reverbs, from EMT plates to Lexicon to rooms, like the Capital Chambers and Ocean Way plugins. All sound very good to me. The Precision limiter is good, tho I tend to just use Ozone for that. I think where UAD shines the most is with plugins that emulate the strong character of classic hardware. The more vanilla stuff can be handled elsewhere, parametric EQ, limiting, transparent reverb. It's when you want reverb, EQ, compression, etc, with a distinct character to it that the UAD plugins tend to win over other alternatives. Those plugins don't always have some of the expected controls - they exhibit whatever quirks the original hardware had, which is what gives them their distinctive sound.
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I’m not sure if expanding on what I’ve already said will be helpful, but on the chance it is, here goes. I agree with Cocobolo Kid in that the Plugin Alliance deal is a very good one. I don’t think their selection is as useful as UA but for the things you’ll use the most, they have some great plugins. I’m not a fan of subscription services but that’s my own issue. For others, subscriptions might make sense.
I agree with everything KevWind said but I’ll go along with Doug Young regarding the compressors. Some of the classics don’t have all those adjustment options but they’re still excellent compressors. I also agree with Doug in that UA does a great job emulating the classics. I liked their LA-2A emulation so much I wound up buying a pair of clones from Audio-Scape. And I liked mixing into the SSL G Buss compressor on my master bus, that I bought a clone of that unit too. At this point, however. there are more plugins I use that are outside the UA universe than in. These are the plugins I’ve used the most: SURGICAL EQ Acon Digital Equalize – I used this for many years because it was the one that happened to be on sale when I was shopping around for something with a bigger interface than what I’d been using. Fab Filter Pro Q3 – I switched to this about a year ago. There’s a lot to learn with this eq and I’m not getting its full benefit yet, but it’s easy enough to use for subtractive purposes. TONE SHAPING EQ UAD Pultec Ozone 9 Dynamic EQ Kush Clariphonic – The Kush is a newer addition and it has really raised my mastering game. The first time I tried it was on a track from an album I had mastered that I had just sent to a client for approval. I was so blown away by what this specialized eq could do that I asked my client to hold off on approving the masters, reworked all the songs with the Clariphonic, and sent them to her without telling her what I’d done. I had an extremely happy client after she A/B-ed the tracks. COMP UAD Fairchild 670 UAD LA-2A for vox, Gray version for acoustic UAD 1176 UAD SSL G Bus Comp – This used to live on my master buss before I bought the hardware unit. LIMITER Ozone 9 Maximizer – For years I used the Avid Maxim but there are better choices out there now. I’ve found the Maximizer to be an excellent limiter that never feels like I’ve tossed a heavy blanket over a mix. Note – I’ve never used the Precision Limiter that Bob Womack recommends so this isn’t a knock on that plugin. REVERB Audio Ease Altiverb LiquidSonics Seventh Heaven UAD Capital Chambers – Between these three, I can almost always find what I want. Eventide T-Verb – In some rare cases the ability to control mic placement in a space is needed and this reverb does that. Honorable Mention to Valhalla Vintage Verb because for $50 it’s a really nice reverb. Not quite up to the top three on this list but in terms of value, it’s a good buy. DELAY Sound Toys Echoboy is about as good as it gets. There are some specialized plugins I use sometimes. Waves CLA Bass – This is an oldie but a goodie and sometimes it’s all I need for get a bass track sitting the way I want it. Eventide Fission – for controlling transients. Oeksound Soothe – to remove harshness Metering – Levels by Mastering the Mix has become my favorite.
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I got this one after you had mentioned it before. It is exactly what I hoped. Nice, boring, and perfect.
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Soothe (not UAD, of course) is one of my new favorite finds. Works great on guitar - subtle, but nice. I'm doing some mixes with violins, and it's even more useful there. I've also been using Limitless instead of the Ozone maximizer a bit lately. Still learning it, but it seems to work well.
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I was unaware of that one. I just tool a quick look at the product page. Does that act like a multi-band compressor? The interface reminds me of that kind of thing. I really need to sit down and figure that tool out. I own the Fab Filter multi-band but I haven't invested the time in it yet.
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The FabFilter stuff is also nice, the only one I've bought is the EQ, which also seems very useful. I use Dynamic EQ much more often than just straight EQ, and this seems to combine the ideas well. Still new to that one, too, tho.
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