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Sorry man..but you're just wrong..the new D-18 is great...the day I traded for mine I ab'd it with a D-18 GE and there was not $1500 difference in them..plus the new D-18 has a great neck..not the clunky thing...my D-18 is anything but thin....just saying...and yea..i'll fight someone over this!!...lol!!!
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I also noted that the straight braced D-18 is much brighter. |
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I would say that the new D-18 is brighter. The straight braced D-18 is quite a mellow laid back guitar in my experience. The new one has that bluegrass style brightness along with the bigger bass. More of a scooped tone. But I guess we do all hear things differently.
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of playing and have never really loved them. I feel the same way about HD-28's. To my ears the rosewoods are too muddy. This may be due to the overtones but whatever the reason I prefer the less overtone heavy hog guitars. Don't get me wrong I love Martin's and I can appreciate rosewood guitars but D28's aren't better than D18's; they're just different. |
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D28's and HD28's will never be as clear sounding as the D18 series, that's the point. It's just the nature of rosewood vs mahogany.
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Exactly.......And again; neither one is better than the other just different.
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I'm not asking for judgment, more like semantics.
Do you consider the sound of those guitars in Cherokee Shuffle "muddy" sounding, was all I was asking. I guess at a certain point "clear" can be considered "thin" by some; "rich" can be considered "muddy" by some. Again... semantics. Personally, I find those examples to be extremely clear AND extremely rich. |
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Even after all the discussion on these forums, we have no common language to describe tone. That is part of the problem. |
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As for that recording, I wouldn't say any of the guitars sounded muddy, but neither did they sound as bright or crisp or focused as I'd prefer for lead bluegrass tone... though they all sounded quite good. Here's another "Cherokee Shuffle" (recording not quite so good, and maybe not actually "Cherokee Shuffle," but that's what it says). In my opinion Kenny Smith (who appears to be playing some iteration of a Collings D-1) and Sutton (playing the banjo killer) have better lead tone than Grier does on what I believe is his '46 D-28... if that's his D-18 then forget I said anything. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvbc3frTbEo
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If you can afford a 1937 D-18A, the rest of the comparisons are interesting, but not in the same league at all.
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I've owned my '05 D-18A since May of 2006. Bought it in Tokyo - paid full pop -- and have never looked back. I think when KYDave talks about sounding like a 28 he might be refering to their power (Hi Dave!).
I've played the snot out of this guitar -- frets are getting dow, action is gettin gup and the color has darkened despite the stain on the top. It reminds me a bit of the '41 D-18 I bought years ago from RC Snoddy but the Authentic has more depth and as Tony Rice said of his old '34, almost unlimited power. It is fussy about strings; it likes the cheapest Martin medium PBs by far, less so D'Addarios - -they seem to thunky at least on my particular guitar. Guitars being what they are, there are a lot of variables. Find a good one and keep it. Trade around for others but find one keeper and grow old with it... |