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Video production newbie needs help.
Im trying to learn video production.
I purchased "Filmora pro" And was able to sync my guitar recording video up with my mandolin video perfectly. Cool. Our band is in self isolation with all gigs cancelled. So i sent them my guitar track and they in turn are recording their parts. We are uploading these to google drive . My first attempt to sync the bass players track to mine is a disaster. there is a place at the end where i do a hamner on and i asked everyone to hit that so i have a place to sync. well if i get this perfect the bass track sounds good for a bit around that sync spot" but slowly drifts apart as you get furthur away. its almost like its compressed Vertically like an accordian not horizontally like a compressor does or an apple press. I guess my question is .. does google drive compress video ? And is there a way to fix this. Im at a standstill with this project if i cant get it to work. thanks.. again im a real newbie to this. |
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My guess is that whatever the bass player used to play back and record a synced track to was running at a slightly different time base.
If that's the case you can edit the bass track by using the time stretch function of your editing program. You'll have to adjust the starting sync point first then go to the end and figure out exactly how much you need to stretch the track so the start and end will both sync up. You can find directions to do the actual stretch in the program help files. It's usually a matter of selecting the stretch audio length function and entering in the number of milliseconds that it needs corrected by. |
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Is the pitch off as well? If the bass track is longer, it should also be a tad flat. Good news if it is, actually, because then Rudy4's fix will fix both issues. Probably take you a few tries, though.
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I wish I knew enough about video to tell you how to fix it at the source. It may not even be possible for everyone's different video-capture devices to create files that coexist well. I just tweak clip length and position until it more or less lines up and shrug at the poorer quality for now. |
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Most any audio editor that I know of will allow time stretching the entire length of the track. The good news is the change in pitch that occurs from time stretching is unnoticeable and insignificant for the small amount that the track is shortened or lengthened. Edits will also often allow you to stretch without changing pitch and conversely change pitch without changing the total time. A very practical example of the ability to time stretch is the "settings wheel" at the lower right side of Youtube videos which lets you slow down a video clip by 25 or 50% without changing pitch. It's very useful for learning new material. |
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Well thank you for all
the responses. The time stretch seems to make sense. I unfortunatly am clueless on where to find this in filmorapro. Ill have to look some more. Our vocalist sent me her cut today. i downloaded it and had to convert it from wmf to mp4. Filmora supports a plethora of media types windows media is not one of them. . But after i did that i was able to sync her vocal to my guitar part. It sync perfectly .didnt take me but 5 min. So im thinking you guys are right and my bass player is recording at a different rate. and its not google drive. Its all a learning curve. Now i have to figure out how to chg the frame rate on filmorapro. |
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So does anyone know where the time
rate is on lets say an ipad camera. Id like to see if we can all do the same rate. im assuming my ipad is whatever the default is as is my vocalist. I just got my percussionists file.on drive. ill download it tonight and see if it will sync up.. Last edited by varmonter; 04-01-2020 at 05:37 AM. Reason: dupe pist |
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What this means is all of your band mates can use the exact same settings and the file length might still end up slightly out of sync. I don't have my iPad in front of me right now, but this is all selectable using the iPad "settings" feature. |
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One thing you might check out is an app called "acapella". Very slick, and makes it really easy to create collaborative videos. Since everyone records into the same app, you shouldn't have these issues. You give up a lot of flexibility compared to using a full video editor, but it makes things incredibly easy, and might help you avoid these issues.
Here's a rough 30 second test I did a few days ago. The whole video took about 3 minutes to put together, push save, and it's done. I did all three videos, but you can bounce it between people and have different players add their parts, each in their own part of the screen. https://mixcord.co/acapella/p/JXppsHZywqRmxu3kLdwVuA/ if you look around, you can find some pretty amazing videos done with this, with entire choirs, orchestras, etc.
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thanks doug. your 30 second recording
looked good. Is this app limited as a free version . I need 4 or 5 min. I know slot of apps will give you like 30 sec then you have to purchase the real version. plus this app gets terrible reviews. like most folks give it 1 out of 5 stars. Im going to stick it out with this software for now ill chalk it up to learning. Its keeping me busy thats for sure. thanks. I found a place where i can adjust the speed. so im playing around with that right now. |
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ill have to look into that app a bit
more.. Ive tried a few Film editing apps recently all had there good points most didnt do enough for me And im a newbie at this. As i get better ill know more about what i want or need a program to do. Kinda like the acoustic guitar amplification Rabbit hole. |
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The Acapella app is the other end of the spectrum - it really just does one thing, but it does it easily. Click on the window you want to record and go. I do see that it has also been around quite a while, and apparently the latest version has changed substantially. So it may be that whatever bad reviews you saw were from early versions. I'd say the only bad things I've seen are 1) "garbage in/garbage out" - you have to have decent lighting, be able to aim the phone right, and have a way to record decent sound (a usb mic works well), and 2) what it does is what you get - no fancy editing, no titles, transitions, etc. If you want a different look, your options are limited. Just multiple people in boxes. But if you've spent hours and hours working with a traditional video editor, dealing with synching audio and so on, the app is refreshing easy.
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I finally did a test collaboration with acapella, rather than just doing all parts myself. The workflow is a little non-intuitive, which may be where complaints are coming from. But it did work, it just wasn't as clear as it should be how to work together. I think it's based around the idea that one person records something and throws it out to the world for it to go viral rather than a more project-oriented approach with specific collaborators working jointly. So there is still a learning curve, but around the collaboration workflow rather than the actual recording process.
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