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I was wondering the same thing when this merger was announced but then I realized that I’m not going to worry about it. I LOVE my Bourgeois and I’m amazed by it every time I play it. I have no plans on selling it and will pass it on to my kids when I’m gone and they can decide what they want to do with it.
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Other than a Pre-War Martin D-45, I don't see guitars as much of a financial investment opportunity.
IMO, Chinese made Bourgeois guitars will not hold their value like an original made in the USA. Many thought that Collings guitars would be more difficult to sell after the passing of Bill Collings and that ones built under his watchful eye would increase in value... Neither thing happened. In fact, Collings RAISED their prices after Bill's passing and they are still selling very well indeed with no loss in the extremely high quality Bill demanded in his instruments. You can save all of this worry by getting a nice Martin Authentic or Collings guitar that meets your sonic needs. Workmanship on both will be impeccable. Last edited by 6L6; 11-10-2019 at 09:57 AM. |
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Jerry,
I have observed a pre-owned Bourgeois often sells for approximately sixty percent or more of it's original new purchase price, and please know there are definite exceptions to this discount amount for wood selection, age, HHG, condition, bindings, torrefication, etc. If you are buying new, you will already take a loss should you elect to resell. Ask yourself, what do you realistically believe the potential discount below the current discount for a pre-owned Bourgeois due to the potential Eastman impact? Factor that impact into your years of ownership and enjoyment of playing the guitar which may be "the one" to determine that cost. Presently, we have two Bourgeois OM's, a Slope D, and a SJ, and have no concerns for their resale value, breakeven or lose $, because we have throughly enjoyed them and will continue to do so. Best of luck in your decision...
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Is PRS suffering because they offer high-end electrics as well Pac Rim models?
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Thanks for the opinions on this, most pretty much mirror my thoughts, I am not purchasing with the intent to sell never have, but thru the years have parted with many and never made money to be sure, well aware of loss on new. The one I am interested in is discounted already even though new.
I have in the past had Bourgeois and they are on of my favorites. I guess when you compare to a new car purchase no danger..talk about loss, wow that's a whole other deal! Was just curious about other folks impressions as I hate seeing more and more going over there and leaving the US workers left out but I guess that's the new world..thanks |
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Yamaha makes expensive higher end guitars. But IMO, few people think of those when they think of the brand. They think the excellent value low end acoustics you see in every music store. |
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Given the constant distinction of MIM versus MIA for Martin or Taylor guitars that many folks seem to fixate on, there likely will be a difference between them in terms of desirability. The Made in USA versions will likely always command some premium, or at least sell easier.
But as has been pointed out, used guitars do not hold their value well. You are lucky to get 50% of the new price when selling a prime example used. I say buy for sound, playability, sound, decoration and sound. Leave any worry about the future for later. |
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First of all, many of us will have an opinion about the future prospects of DB guitars. However, the reality is that none of have a clue. So, given that, I guess it depends on why you are buying it. If you are buying a guitar because you really like it, then buy it. I’m not sure (based on facts) why you would not buy it. The playability and tone should drive your decision, not some imagined tangential outcome — IMO. My DB Signature OM is one of the best guitars I’ve played and I could care less about market forces when I’m using it to make music.
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I can’t see how the value of a Bourgeois built in the U.S. would ever be affected by a Chinese version one way or the other.
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What he said. It's like getting a pre-nup before marriage.
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Eastman making Bourgeois guitars...
So, the new guitars would be under the Beastman name?!? It has a ring to it...
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And in point of fact the company can and is a Lexus and Toyota at the same . The analogy is pretty funny given that the Lexus division of Toyota is the largest selling "premium" vehicle produced in Japan
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