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I hear a similar story when people ask me who's the better guitarist... THIS guy or THAT guy, both of which are top shelf players.
When one reaches a certain level of mastery, it really doesn't matter. Same with instruments. I consider the Authentic line of Martin's to be comparable to any of the instruments put out there by the smaller makers, like Huss and Dalton. The prices are in the exact same ballpark and the quality, playability, performance and tone is on an equal level. Notice that I didn't say the same tone, albeit they are REAL close. So who makes Martins that sound like Martins? There's no reason why a gifted luthier that will go through the trouble of duplicating, as close as they can, to all the specifications that Martin uses, can't do it. I'll tell you first hand that I have a custom built dread that sounds spot on like any off the shelf D-28. My luthier specifically used Martin's specs and the guitar came out terrific. You might ask why I just didn't go out and buy a D-28, which would be fair. The reason is that I have a special relationship with this luthier. He keeps my guitars in working order and builds some fine instruments. He offered to build me my own instrument and I asked if he could replicate a D-28. He said that he could, but that I would be the final judge and if I didn't' like it, no problem, I didn't have to take it. When it was finished I compared it to other D-28's and sure enough, it was spot on. Of course, not everyone will have the opportunity to do this. I know in 1990 when I wanted a Martin guitar, I purchased my 000-16 which I still have to this day. If you want a Martin, buy a Martin.
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That's very surprising… I'm sorry to hear that. Experiences can vary, but H&D's customer service was as good as or better than any I've ever seen. Wonderful folks to deal with...
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Oh...and no one makes a better Martin than Martin. If you're talking about consistency, you won't find that from a boutique builder that makes every guitar by hand. There would be too much variability - but that's what also makes them special. Martin dreads are the standard. Keep looking until you find the one that speaks to you.
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Who makes Martins better than Martin
Nobody. And Martin doesn't make better Taylors. You get the point
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Some Martins Last edited by SFCRetired; 03-02-2017 at 09:13 AM. |
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Pointless Question !~!~!
Who make Santa Cruz better than Santa Cruz, or Bougeois better than Bourgeois?????
Nobody make Martins better than Martin, the usual suspects (Bourgeois/Collings/Santa Cruz/H&D) all make fine "comparable" instruments, but they aren't substitutes for each other, they are alternative choices. Like asking what Mustang is most like a Camaro, get the one you want to begin with, not see how close some other car can get. I have high end Martins, if I thought there were better out there "to my ears" that's what I would own, and I have owned Collings and Bourgeois in the past. The best way to get the vintage Martin sound is buy a Martin......
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I don't know know if he is THIS guy or THAT guy, but one of the two is surely Norman Blake.
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Bruce Sexauer recently made two similar guitars modeled after Martins - he made one more traditional - called the UMGF - and one more modern -called the AGF. He recently posted a comparison of these being played. I highly recommend you look at the build thread and compare them. Real insight into making a "Martin" like guitar.
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I know this doesn't really help any, so sorry in advance, but that Santa Cruz Brad Paisley model Brad plays in that insurance commercial sounds just about as good as you could hope a great dread would sound, IMHO and to my ears. Not sure how different it is from their more pedestrian (and less expensive) D/PW but wow, what a great sound in that little clip.
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That being the case, I prefer the original. When I play mine, I don't have to keep telling myself that it's better, nicer, prettier, just like, sounds better or whatever compared to a Martin guitar. , It is a Martin guitar for better or worse. Nothing beats owning the original. |
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I don't own a Martin. I would buy a Martin if I wished to spend the money required to get a D28. I would not buy a Martin imitation at the same or higher price. I did buy an Eastman E 20 D which emulates a Martin Marquis because it sounds similar but costed a lot less. Maybe I will buy a Martin someday. If I do it will be because I have decided I want a Martin.
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It's a fitting tribute to Martin that we are having this (these) discussion(s). If their guitars weren't great, no one would be trying to emulate or improve upon them.
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I guess I'm lucky as a primarily (nearly exclusively) electric player since '72, I can just go for whatever sounds the best to me without having to compare it to the monolith that is Martin and their legacy except in direct A/B situations when shopping. I played a bunch of Martins recently and they were nice, but not the be all and end all of acoustic guitars to me, anyway. I readily admit I can't listen to two guitars on a record and hear that one is a mahogany D18 and another a rosewood D28 though. To me it is simply two sounds, and they are either nice or not (and they usually are if they made it to record lol).
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