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12-08-2015, 11:55 AM
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Piezo rhythm stomp box: how to make it sound more like a kick drum??
I made a rhythm stomp box out of an old tobacco tin and a piezo disc, with a volume control. When I tap my shoe on it, it goes TOCK TOCK. I want it to sound more like THUNK THUNK. I'm thinking maybe run it through an EQ pedal, or even an octave pedal. Any ideas?
Last edited by Joie2800; 12-10-2015 at 08:23 PM. 
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12-10-2015, 09:26 PM
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I would try some EQ. What type of speaker are you running this to? A 15" bass speaker would be ideal.
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12-10-2015, 09:56 PM
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I use a DanElectro Fish&Chips EQ pedal. It's the cheapest I found.
100 and 200Hz at +10db. 400Hz at zero. Everything else at -10db. Will not give anything like a kick drum, but enough thump to get the job done.
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12-10-2015, 10:04 PM
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Do you have a drum machine?
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12-11-2015, 12:26 AM
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A suggestion that I think I saw on the Footbass site was to plug the stompbox into a powered subwoofer. I believe it mentioned using one of at least 75 watts. They said something to the effect of it gets the floor shaking in a venue with around 50 people, maybe more.
When you watch a video demonstration of any of the various bass drum boxes, whether commercial or homemade, you'll tend to hear "tock tock" unless you have a good sound system on the computer, or you're wearing headphones. The guy in Australia who makes and sells the Puck'N Stompa has one model that is designed to produce a "tock" sound, and another that's intended to be more like a snare.
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12-11-2015, 04:59 AM
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Piezo rhythm stomp box: how to make it sound more like a kick drum??
How about dock smock... Or chunk funk?
Really good sounding tobacco can chunk funk I'd gig with it
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12-11-2015, 06:26 AM
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Thanks so much for the useful suggestions.
To address your questions, I am running the box through a Yamaha DBR10 powered speaker. I do not have a drum machine (I sold the two I had to simplify my rig). I like the idea of a dedicated powered sub, but again, the reason I am going with a tobacco tin piezo stomper is to simplify and lighten the rig. From what I've read so far, I think maybe the best route is the Fish & Chips EQ. Cheap, compact, simple. Any other ideas out there?
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12-11-2015, 11:39 AM
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I'm a habitual stompbox user & EQ is the key.You need to set aside the usual rules about only making small adjustments. I go straight into the PA & set the top and the mids rolled as far back as they go (-15db) & then push the bass up to it's maximum (+15db) as my starting point.
There have been a few rooms I've met over the years where I needed to roll a tiny bit of top back in to get some 'snap', but they have been few & far between. You might also find it useful to put something under the stompbox to deaden the vibrations from the floor to make sure you get a thud rather than a boing.
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12-11-2015, 12:02 PM
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Turn the bass up and mid and treble off on the mixing desk/amp channel
Boom! They have a cave troll...
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12-11-2015, 02:56 PM
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Try doing this
[IMG]  [/IMG]Get a used cheap bass pickup, a license plate (make sure it is not aluminum), a quarter inch jack, and some wire. Build a box.I use 2x2 wood, it is going to be stomped on, after all. Screw the pickup to the floor of the box, wire up the jack, screw the license plate on top. I mount the pickup 1/3 from one end. You can adjust the pickup height to taste. Start around 1/8 " from the plate. Not quite a kick drum, but a nice wamp. The deepest kick sound is the Missippi Stomp from Peterman in Oz. It uses a speaker to generate the signal. Screw some rubber feet to the bottom. $25 project. Cheaper if you have a plate and or pickup.
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#12
12-13-2015, 02:18 AM
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A lot of people are suggesting EQ solutions to bring out frequensies which don't even exist in the original signal.
A small tin box will no more put out kick drum frequencies through a piezo than a soprano uke will put out the full spectrum of a dreadnaught guitar through a piezo. Find an object that will put out those frequencies, even if softly, and then amp that with a piezo. I've heard a piezo stomp made with a split hockey puck which put out the low end, but never have I heard a tin box do so.
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07-13-2018, 04:16 PM
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07-14-2018, 05:26 AM
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