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See also my thread on the Anthem + K&K.
As Doug suggests, the SL has a stereo jack so it should be very similar to the Lyric. But I don't think the SL has solder tabs like the Lyric, so it's unclear how much room there is in there to do it. IMO, guys that like to tinker with this sort of thing would want the extra bells and whistles of the full Anthem... at least that is the board I'm in.
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I have enjoyed reading all of the informative posts in this thread. I currently have the Lyric in my D-28A and because of the small bridgeplate I have already installed it on the backside of the pins. I am thinking about adding the KK to this set-up.
If I install the lyric and KK Mini Pure both as a dual source sytem, how easy is it to use just the lyric alone? Is it possible to bypass the KK by using a standard guitar cord? Thanks! |
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The Lyric will be on the tip, so a normal guitar cord will only pick up the Lyric
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Yes, thank you Doug....interesting topic of blending the two pickups together...somewhere on these forums I believe Doug mentioned blending a Lyric pickup with a mic...that's what I did...Lyric + Shure Beta 57A and blended the two together in my Marshall AD50D acoustic amp...comes out fabulous !!
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Ok, I have just read through the whole thread again and want to say thank you all for the great info!
Do you still use your 9 volt battery to supply power to the lyric or are you getting that through phantom power? |
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I believe you must have the 9 volt battery in place to use the Lyric. I don't think it'll work with out it. It powers the
built-in pre-amp.
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This setup is very interesting and I think I try it in my D28... only doubt is what preamp to use it with. I thought about the KK belt clip preamp (portable, 2 ch volume on the go, gain and eq trimpots for each ch) ... emailed the folks at K&K and they recomended the Dual Channel Pro ST for this setup ... it's primarily a pickup+mag preamp but it's actually the same preamp on the Trinity system, just doesn't have the mic power which the Lyric doesn't need ... anyway, do you guys think this is a good setup? K&K+Lyric in the K&K preamp? BTW, this is my 1st post here. I've been reading the forum for a while and it's been very helpful. Special thanks to Doug and rschultz for all the info shared. Cheers |
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I know this is off topic a bit but RSchultz has had some interesting projects in wiring.
Has anyone ever attempted to use the ES v1.3 (2012 models) endpin and wire in a second source (K&K)? I have a 914 with a Sunrise mag and K&K pm wired to a stereo output jack. I send each pickup to a separate input on the RedEye twin, blend the outputs and get great results, sending a mono signal to an AER/board/ or Fishman Loudbox Performer. I get the string definition and crispness of the Sunrise with the body warmth of the K&K, just like everyone on this thread is doing with the Lyric and K&K combination. Since the ES has the mag pickup under the fretboard, adding a K&K to it might work out well. Just wondering if there was a way to wire in a K&K and still keep the ES in place, using the mag pickup already under the fretboard? Thanks in advance and great thread here! davidc |
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Have any of you tried the Mach 2 pre by kk. I have one and it is NY the same just with added notch filter. Tje.sound has more high end and the mid and high controls seem different. Jack at kk did say that they were different. All I know is that their k pure pre sounds less derailed if that makes sense. Makes a diffeeence.
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I just reviewed this thread. Somehow I got away from the Lyric, and have been using an Anthem + K&K for the past couple years. Well I finally got tired of the Anthem... it's convenient, but just lacks a certain liveliness. It's been a couple years, but the thing I remember about the Lyric was how LIVE it was (that's both good and bad). So am back at looking at the Lyric and a mag to pair with the K&K. I just bought a DiMarzio Black Angel I want to try. Not sure where I'll end up, but it should be a fun adventure!
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I ran the K&K+BlackAngel, and then K&K+Anthem SL for about 6 months each. But, in the end, neither was as good as the K&K+Lyric. So I'm back on that.
But this time it's different because I have a Helix. The ability to EQ, IR, filter, etc is great and so easy. I find that the K&K does benefit from IR, the 3sigma Mart45 sounds great on the passive K&K. However, the Lyric doesn't work so well with IR's. EQ/filtering in Helix looks like this: Lyric: HPF (500 Hz), LPF (12-13k). K&K: ParaEQ (dip at 160 Hz, and again at 700 Hz). Mart 45 IR. So notice that the K&K is full range and the bulk of the sound. The Lyric is just some mic over the top, and with the volume knob I can adjust that on the fly. The Helix now gives me the ability to HP/LP the Lyric, and use IR on the K&K... something that my previous boards and pedals like Felix couldn't do. IR on the K&K is a very noticeable improvement.
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Regarding the Lyric, I have it installed on a guitar with a natural finish and the handling noise really affects the way I play. I'm constantly having to think about how I hold the instrument.
I was thinking that I could install it in a gloss finish guitar which might improve things. Has anyone got any experience of this..? |
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I don’t think gloss would help, it’s just a very live pickup. Two things I do I combat handling noise:
1. Turn the presence knob down some 2. A low pass filter at around 12-13k often helps in this regard without affecting the tone.
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