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10-23-2019, 08:42 PM
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10-26-2019, 09:20 AM
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Eric! I have a M80, and I just think I can't dial it right.
I have, myself, a LR Baggs Para DI, a LR Baggs Session DI, an Empress Para EQ, and an EQ of my Mixer (QSC Touchmix8). My acoustic guitar is a Martin HD28. I have installed a HFN Passive in it, but I feel it just sound not that good, as compared with other videos I saw at YouTube. Do you have any idea of how could I achieve the sound you have (or at least a little better)? I'm just bad with eq and adjust the poles of it, I guess. I see that you are the bigger reference on using M80s over here... that's why I'm asking you. Thank you!
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10-26-2019, 12:38 PM
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* Glad to help so here's my video & thread I did after many inquires about the M80.... https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=517255 As I mentioned, the M80 is not for everybody. I will say that taming the resonance in the highly resonant rosewood dread body of a HD28 is challenging because remember the M80 performs somewhat like a dual source picking up the body resonance with great sensitivity. Believe me the slightly less resonant D18 is challenging too. ** I use the Loudbox Performer and get the best EQ I can achieve first from it and the notch filter and phase switch is a big part of that. Balancing the pole pieces and M80 placement is crucial as well as I explain in video. Once that is done a good eq like the Baggs Align will help tweak and define your tone wonderfully. It has the right tools with a notch filter, high pass filter, phase and gain in addition to the actual EQ... you should be able to achieve a very good sound from the M80 with it. *** If the M80 does not work for you I would try a Black Angel which is much less sensitive, however, the richness of the M80 is lovely once dialed in so I wish you the best! Use your ears to experiment, not where the dials are set and go one step at a time so your ears are not overwhelmed with a barrage of tones...... Cheers!
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10-27-2019, 11:21 AM
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Thank you SO much for the feedback, Eric!
I'm looking forward to test everything you talk about on that post and video.
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10-28-2019, 10:14 PM
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Now that I've used the Blackstack on half a dozen gigs I prefer it to the Sunrise,.. it's more acoustic sounding on my Martin 00-15. The Sunrise is fatter on the unwound strings but lacks the clarity. The Blackstack has less mid range and more overtones, it's very natural sounding and uncolored. To my ear sounds way better for fingerpicking.
I'm using the Sunrise buffer box preamp, works great w/ the Blackstack. It's the best acoustic sound I've had, very usable, simple and easy.
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10-29-2019, 04:48 AM
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I just switched over from the Black Angel to the Sunrise a couple of months
ago. The BA was great, but I like the sound of the Sunrise better. I guess I will have to try the BlackStack. Have you done the 'install' yet? Is the mini-plug fairly easy to deal with? The BA plug is great....very easy to install & remove.
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10-29-2019, 01:46 PM
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11-08-2019, 08:10 PM
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I ordered the $40 short cable from Fishman for the install. I bought a spare Blackstack w/ the long cable for temporary installations.
But the long Fishman cable is just two wires, it's not really a mini-xlr. It would be a cinch to shorten it and solder the leads to a switchcraft acoustic jack/endpin. Quote:
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11-09-2019, 04:48 AM
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I had a Blackstack for a while. Liked the light weight, convenient installation and the build quality, but in terms of tone and response I found it didn't quite measure up to my Sunrises.
I used mine in my SJ200, and perhaps it just didn't jive well with that particular guitar, but it was nowhere near as dynamic as the Sunrise for my playing style. It seemed to suffer from a couple of harmonic dead spots too, which I think was down to placement. Beyond the Sunrise, my favourite mag pickup is the Seymour Duncan MagMic. I have one in my Dove and it's a really stellar pickup, very dynamically adaptable on the fly with the mic blend and volume pots right at your fingertips.
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11-09-2019, 11:01 AM
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I had to search for “blackstack” on fishmanstore.com:
Blackstack 22'' Cable 22" TA4 to Endpin jack cable, shortened for semi-permanent installation. This 22'' cable is the perfect length for installing the Blackstack pickup wired to an endpin jack inside your instrument. Although the provided cable can be used as an endpin jack, this shorter cable allows the user to complete endpin installation without shortening the cable, securing excess cable, or soldering. Product Code: ACC-CBL-BLK In Stock: Yes Price (USD): $39.95
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11-10-2019, 09:53 AM
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YMMV. Sunrise user for at least 20 years. The Blackstack is on my gig guitar now, a responsive Martin 00-15. With the slightly lower output the Blackstack is more responsive and detailed than the Sunrise. Same on my Waterloo WL-12.
If you're looking for a fatter sound that Sunrise is your pickup, made me happy for many years. Quote:
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11-24-2019, 10:10 PM
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I bought a BlackStack to see what the buzz was about. I have just
switched out a Black Angel in 2 of my guitars and installed the Sunrise. I commented in another thread that the SR was a little more full-bodied and dynamic than the BA. I use both the Black Angel and a Schertler Ag-6 in my 3rd guitar, a Goodall RSC. I installed the BlackStack in the RSC running the cable out of the soundhole. The BlackStack was more full-bodied than the BA. I did not notice any loss of detail. It did, as StephenT reported, have many of the characteristics we like in the Sunrise. If I had no pickups whatsoever installed, I would definitely consider the BS as my main pickup. It was too much trouble to remove my newly installed Sunrise pu's to make a direct comparison, but gut feel tells me the BS would do nicely. I don't gig as much with the RSC as I do my other guitars; so I am not switching harnesses at this time. I do wish the BS connection was mini-jack and not their proprietary connection. Meanwhile, I have 2 Black Angels and a BlackStack doing closet/backup duty for now. Though the other 2 may win on pure sonics, I think the BA stays on the short list because of its smaller size, mini-jack interface, phase switch, clamp (pointed out by VinceM in another thread) and price. Thanks to StephenT and others for pointing out the BlackStack to us and putting it thru the test in the real gigging world. It seems to be the front-runner in the passive soundhole pu race.
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