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Ask the buyer if it is bothering you that much. If they are fine with it, no harm, no foul. Otherwise I think it is somewhat bogus. |
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Yes, you did say that it’s not right...yet, the BUT that followed that statement implied otherwise. It could have been misinterpreted. Either way I agree that honesty is always the best policy...in ANY situation.
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Actually it generally is if you always try to do the right thing. Everything else is .... wrong.
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Common sense...what a concept....
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Now to wax a little philosophically, on the flip side of that, the dichotomy still doesn't hold, if you are either someone who "always tries to do the right thing" or someone who does what is "wrong" then we're all people who do what is "wrong."
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Then your position of when YOU believe a deal is struck - doesn't mean you're correct just because that's your belief. Finally, there are not "always" extenuating circumstances. You are always allowed your beliefs - but again - that doesn't make it correct or right. |
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I had an experience along these lines.
I had a Taylor 210 (the early version that was all-solid and made in California) but found what I felt was a great deal on a Taylor 410 at a local store. A friend of mine had expressed interest in buying a Taylor guitar, so I floated the idea of selling him my 210 so I could buy the 410. He liked my guitar, so he agreed. I bought the 410 and it seemed like it was a win-win for everyone. That was until I got home with the 410 and realized it just didn’t match up to the 210. The guitar just didn’t have what I loved about the 210, and I realized I’d made a huge mistake. I also realized it might not be too late to correct it. I called the guitar shop and spoke with the guy who’d sold me the guitar. He kindly agreed to take the 410 back and refund my money minus a small restocking fee. I then called my friend and asked if he believed in repentance. He said he figured I’d change my mind and that he enjoyed playing my guitar for a couple days. I gave him his money back plus another $50–100, which I had to repeatedly insist he take. Not long afterwards, I found a 310 at another local shop that was going in a different direction with their inventory and selling their Taylors at what had to have been wholesale prices. I let my friend know and came back with him to buy it — he didn’t pay much more than he’d given me for my 210 and got a brand new Taylor that was right there with my 210 in tone and cosmetically a bit better. The lesson I learned at that time cost me $100–200, but I’m glad everyone involved was chill enough and understanding enough to help it end well. I still have that Taylor 210 and it still gets played a lot despite sharing time with a couple guitars that are worth 3–5 times as much. Moral of the story: if you don’t know what you’ve got until it’s gone, sometimes there’s still time to get it back, but it might cost you a little extra Last edited by ataylor; 07-21-2019 at 06:42 PM. |
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In asking about trade ethics it seems to me that the best metric we have is to look to what the majority of traders believe, unless someone can suggest another source. In this case, although I haven't counted, it would seem that most thing it is okay to cancel it if no money has changed hands yet.
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A verbal contract is legal as someone pointed out. But it is almost impossible to enforce and trying to do so is a way to get yourself laughed at. You are basically off the hook - legally. But morally, it is another matter. Only you and the buyer can decide if it is morally correct to back out. If it were me, I'd want to make sure the buyer concurred. But then if it were me, I go through with it anyhow and kick myself for making a mistake. But it may not be the big mistake that you now think it is. Remember, you originally wanted to sell it - why? Does that reason still stand?
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1. Be nice 2. Lie to him 3.Try the truth 5.Offer cash I'd just go with#1, #3, and if necessary #5, right out of the gate and see where that takes you. Thanks for the tips on dealing with a buyer!
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I look askance on folks who’s moral compass always seems to point to what benefits them
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😁 yes I agree ☝️ integrity is what is being discussed! IMHO!
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In my world the item isn’t sold until money changes hands (accounts). I would feel no obligation to explain. That said, I don’t put an item up for sale unless I WANT to be rid of it.
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I know it may be considered heresy on AGF--- BUT it's just a guitar
There really are lots and lots of good guitars out in the big wide world (which is true for both the seller and the buyer) Regardless of the declaratives being offered from both perspectives. For me I would not renege on a struck deal. Of course I would not offer a "Keeper" for sale in the first place (kind of a complete contradiction in terms)
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