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I've just atarted and got these useful items: - Rubber mute that fits over the bridge and is a kindness to everyone in the vicinity, player included. - A package of musician ear plugs for the ear next to the sound holes. I found the loud volume rather painful. Violin players at the music store and bluegrass club admitted to being a bit deaf in the ear next to the fiddle. - Fingerboard removable overlay with very faint raised fret lines. This is like violin braille or training wheels for rookies to learn by feel where fingers should be for each note. This startup shortcut means you can concentrate much more on the bowing technique to get a good tone. Instructor says peering at fingerboard stickers distorts body position. Inexpensive from Peter Stoney at frettedfiddle.com. - Fiddle capo as a jamming shortcut until I learn to transpose between keys. Also from frettedfiddle.com. If you've bought or rented you can ignore this: - Everyone said the bow is very important. My $100 carbon fibre bow has less bounce and a better tone than the fibreglass bow included in the violin kit. It stores the second slot of the violin case. - Renting is great advice. But my bad, I got a great deal on a new outfit and won't worry much about damage or loss while travelling. - Asked the sales person to play violins to hear which sounded nicest. Avoided those that were shrill or thin. Decided on one with a full tone and growl like those I liked at the bluegrass club. - Was told to buy a step or two higher that can be easily resold to someone ready to upgrade. Makers have series 0xx, 100, 200, 300, premium name a, premium name b, etc. Can get good intermediate grade at 200 or 300 series. I'd ask jam partners about local favourites and recommendations. - If I like fiddling, the next will be the affordable carbon fibre Glasser for worry free play outdoors. Cheers . Last edited by casualmusic; 04-27-2019 at 02:17 AM. |
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BTW it is easy to have frets installed installed on a violin fretboard (shhh). There is debate on violin forums pro and con, practical vs sacrelage. Apparently it may impede some advanced glissando technique but doubt I'll ever get that good! Cheers . |
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Putting frets on a violin changes the tone completely.
Like the difference between a fretless banjo & a fretted banjo.
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Plus all of the slides in both bluegrass and old time fiddle are so great on the violin. Don't fret. Just learn the right way. Play the mando if you need frets
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The 5 string intrigued me. I fell in love with the viola when i was 9. I heard it’s notes and knew I had to learn. How was the learning curve with the 5 and the 10?
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5 string viola is just a longer scale violin with a low C. All I had to "learn" is the muscle memory of the notes being spaced out more than on a violin. I'm not very good at reading alto clef yet (grew up sightreading treble) but I mostly play folk, bluegrass, Americana by ear anyway. The 10 string Hardanger viola is a 5 string viola with 5 sympathetic understrings, so fingering is the same as my other 5 strings. There are dozens of different Hardanger tunings in use, but for now I'm in standard.
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Thanks for the info! I enjoyed trying to figure songs out by ear to play on viola. Reading alto clef will just click at some point. At least, that’s how it is going for me learning treble clef. It clicked after awhile of reading and playing the guitar.
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Curious - why not? I regularly do it with with my guitar.
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What you are doing is more akin to bending than the slides and delicate rocking vibrato of a violinist. Vibrato on a fretted instrument will never be as nuanced as a fretless.
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Vibrato on a fretless instrument is accomplished by moving the point where the string contacts the fingerboard, subtly altering the pitch above and below the main note. On a fretted instrument the string can only make contact on a fret. Many guitar players (myself included) make a vibrato motion with the left hand when playing a sustained note. If you end up bending the string side-to-side you may alter the pitch. Likewise if you have light strings and high frets such that you can still raise the pitch after the string contacts the fret by mashing the string all the way into the fretboard (stretching the string similar to a bend). In both of these examples you're only able to alter the pitch above then back to the base note, not above and below.
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