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Old 10-23-2012, 06:49 AM
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As I stated I am a believer in 'What ever best serves the individual song and ones personal goals " so I have no problem with overdubs and or comps.
But I have to say in the right circumstance a "one take" can be just magic, as is apparently the case of these two videos. Which are either one continuous take, or outstanding editing.

The first one was posted in the General forum a few weeks back. The other is Vid an engineer friend of mine sent me.

Both vids are HD, multi cam and look to be state of the art AND much better served listening to on either good monitors, or if on a laptop in head phones as the sound is just superb.
Hope you enjoy as much as I . Kev

This one is from the BBC Transatlantic sessions w/ Darrel Scott and friends, including Jerry Douglas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1iQG...ure=related%0D

This one is of an up and coming local Colorado group of very talented young people called "Elephant Revival"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=B3lUfUWt69c
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:15 AM
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Multiple takes for me. I play all the instruments myself almost all the time.

I do prefer to get each passage down in one take, and if it's continuous throughout a piece it should be one take.

Like if there's a clean guitar in verses and overdriven in chorus, I'll do that in multiple takes. If there's drums throughout the song, I want to get that down in one take. Unless there's a long enough pause somewhere to do it in two (or more) takes.

I punch in/out sometimes, but not often. I think I should make more good use of it!
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I personally want to take full advantage of the technology at my fingertips....

Someone listening back is NOT going to know it I punched in or not.

On my vocals I don't use Auto-Tune...However, what I do is record 4 takes. I keep mic. distance equal in all 4 takes. My phrasing will always be true, but some may be just a tad better. Or ennunciated clearer, etc. I will strive to sing consistently just like I practiced for months before my final vocal take.

I then go line by line and comp a track. I may punch in a line or two and I am done....

It sounds like Steve Altonian hitting on all cylinders in a performance, on one of the very best days vocally you will ever hear me in my life.......

At the end of the day, I need to release a product that is me, on my very best day..........
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As a long time listener <G>, perfect is not always so perfect. IOW, the imperfections, the slightly fumbled note, the cracking voice, make the recording real. Turn on today's radio and you will hear vocalized, on-pitch, 4/4 time beating away at your ears - ouch!

I miss the imperfect. Or as Leo Kottke once said about his own voice, "I guess my voice has been compared to a goose fart on a muggy day". A Leo Kottke, a John Hartford, even a Bob Dylan are perfectly imperfect.
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I personally want to take full advantage of the technology at my fingertips....

Someone listening back is NOT going to know it I punched in or not.

On my vocals I don't use Auto-Tune...However, what I do is record 4 takes. I keep mic. distance equal in all 4 takes. My phrasing will always be true, but some may be just a tad better. Or ennunciated clearer, etc. I will strive to sing consistently just like I practiced for months before my final vocal take.

I then go line by line and comp a track. I may punch in a line or two and I am done....

It sounds like Steve Altonian hitting on all cylinders in a performance, on one of the very best days vocally you will ever hear me in my life.......

At the end of the day, I need to release a product that is me, on my very best day..........
Excellent approach, Steve,

Watching the Idol and Vocal TV shows is humbling. Some of those folks make it look so easy. For them, maybe.

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Like Ty Ford - I record several takes in one session.

I then pick the best take - the one that might need just 3 or 4 'fixes' - I paste in little sections from the other takes to make the fixes. I take care with cross fading so that the joins are totally transparent.

I would never record a track on different days, I always record at least 7 takes in the same session then I know that the feel for that 'moment' is always there.

I do sometimes check the intro's and outro's straight away after I've recorded the takes, and if I feel that none of them are good enough I record several intro's and outro's separately and pick the best. I never punch in/out.
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Like Ty Ford - I record several takes in one session.

I then pick the best take - the one that might need just 3 or 4 'fixes' - I paste in little sections from the other takes to make the fixes. I take care with cross fading so that the joins are totally transparent.

I would never record a track on different days, I always record at least 7 takes in the same session then I know that the feel for that 'moment' is always there.

I do sometimes check the intro's and outro's straight away after I've recorded the takes, and if I feel that none of them are good enough I record several intro's and outro's separately and pick the best. I never punch in/out.
How is copying and pasting one take into another take any different than punching in and out from one take into another take?
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How is copying and pasting one take into another take any different than punching in and out from one take into another take?
Hi Rick,
I always understood punching in/out was joining in with a section of a track that was already playing in real time.

Once a track has been recorded then I don't see it as punching in/out. It's copying/pasting - the equivalent 'old' name for copy/paste was splicing wasn't it?
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Hi Rick,
I always understood punching in/out was joining in with a section of a track that was already playing in real time.

Once a track has been recorded then I don't see it as punching in/out. It's copying/pasting - the equivalent 'old' name for copy/paste was splicing wasn't it?
Thanks for the info.
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How is copying and pasting one take into another take any different than punching in and out from one take into another take?
Well with the "undo" button very little, just different workflow.
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