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Build Thread: Saville Baritone - Sinker Redwood and Walnut
Since we are nearing the final specs for my baritone, I'll go ahead and post what I have. I was impressed with Steve's work after playing a figured redwood/bubinga baritone that he made for another forumite. I've taken a bit of a different direction with my baritone, but I'm really excited about the design we're settling on.
Steve found a jaw-dropping set of moonglow sinker redwood for my top, and I was able to hunt down a 5A set of western black walnut. I'm finalizing an art deco-inspired set of bronze shell inlay for the headstock, fretboard, and rosette. We're going to use macassar ebony for the binding. Size SJ Baritone Top Sinker Redwood Back/sides Western Black Walnut Binding top Macassar Ebony Binding back Macassar Ebony with .010 purfling (maple) Armrest Laskin inspired radiused Med/small Purfling Bronze MOP and BMB Kerfed lining Mahogany. Back bracing - Spruce. Top bracing Spruce Bridge plate Maple or rosewood (TBD) Bridge Ebony 2 1/4 spacing. Bridge pins TBD. Fretboard Ebony with Bronze MOP art deco inlay and Purfling Fretboard binding Ebony Headplate Ebony with Bronze MOP art deco inlay and purfling Back of Headplate Macassar Ebony Headplate binding - Ebony Neck 5 piece laminate Walnut/Oak/Walnut Nut- 1 3/4" bone Saddle Bone. Tuners Gotoh 510 Delta Style (21:1), Gold Tuner buttons - Ebony Rosette Bronze MOP art deco inlay on ebony ring, bronze MOP purfling surrounding ebony ring Soundhole binding - one 010" black strip. Bottom wedge Ebony Back Strip None Fret wire (bars) EVO Fretboard side markers Bronze MOP Pickup system - None Scale length - 27.5" Cutaway Florentine (Sharp) Fretboard radius - 16". Neck D shape .800 thick Neck joinery - mortise and tenon bolt on & bolt on fingerboard ext. Truss rod - double acting (access from sound hole). Top radius 28. Back radius 15. Bracing X Somogyi influenced Finish -Gloss Polyurethane Strings Medium Elixir Soundport Oval - Bound Fretboard extension Typical Saville curved Case Ameritage Here's the sinker top. One side is upside down relative to the other, so pay no attention to the mismatch. Here's a better one . . . The walnut sides have a lovely red hue to them that I think will really come out nicely when finished. Everything together. Walnut sides. Some naphtha to give a sense of the finished product.
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Beautiful wood combination. Should be a winner!
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Nice set of woods!
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Congrats!
Specs and woods look good. Depending on what tuning you plan to play in you might want to consider a change in the nut width. B to B with 27.5" scale, and mediums will likely give you some pretty floppy strings. If you went with a 1 13/16th's or 1 7/8" nut you would have some flexability in heavier string guages and still have enough real estate to play comfortably. Just throwing it out now, as it would be much easier to make these kind of changes now, rather than later. Man I miss my old Larrivee BT-60 baritone.............. Hope she turns out great !! Mike
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The wood is beautiful, and Steve builds great guitars - I've played several and I'm saving a spot for an OM he should have done around Thanksgiving. And he's a great guy to deal and design and work with. You will greatly enjoy the journey with Steve. I haven't played one of his baritones yet, but have heard nothing but praise. I have a sneaking suspicion that when I do play one, I'll have to make a little more room at home for a second Saville!
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Hey Peter, did you provide Juston with the Moonglow
Sinker? Nice stuff Juston - Great wood combo!
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Yes he did. Peter was very kind to help us out with that great top. It is amazing redwood with a story. It would be great if Peter told us how he found this wood.
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BTW - The baritone strings did work well with a 1 3/4" nut.
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Sounds like you guys have thought this out. I had guessed D-D for mediums. What kind of string tensions did you calculate for C-C and D-D? Do you think the B-B didn't work well because of the smaller body shape, or the scale length, or both? My fat fingers liked the extra real estate of 1 7/8" Mike
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27.5 with mediums tuned D-D is about 175 lbs 27.5 with baritone strings tuned to B-B is about 197 lbs Sorry I don't have the exact answer for you. I could calculate it if you need it. Quote:
Mike - Slim Fast for Fingers?
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Thanks Steve !
Remember we need PICS !!! Mike
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Well, I just finished reviewing an inlay design with Anthony Paule (Andy DePaule's brother). He's going to design an art deco fretboard, headstock, and rosette inlay for me and his brother's going to cut it into brownlip shell.
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Moonglow sinker redwood???
I've a wonderful Saville OM (Belle Noir) with a sinker rw top, but am wondering what is this moonglow stuff?
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It's just really just super dark sinker redwood with a natural "burst" effect. The boards were harvested from a log in Northern California that had been sunken for over 100 years.
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