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My instructor writes out the up and down symbols and underneath he writes the "1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a . . . " Leaving blanks for when you don't strum. So it might go, for a particular song,
"1 e + 2 + 3 + a 4 e and a" Then he says, keep the hand moving on those you don't strum. I know this is kindergarten stuff, but it helps a lot, IMO. Learning the strumming parts to Aqualung now, for example, and this helps a lot. |
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A while ago I went to an open night at a folk club and saw a number of people performing songs with that up/down scrubbing action on their guitars. It occurred to me that it ruined any expression intended in their lyrics and fixed the delivery as if it were a march. Please watch this video I made last year : and also this one that I made just last month: I hope it helps.
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Sorry I went MIA... tuff times right now.
I am very grateful for all the info and will eagerly start looking at it! And let y'all know how I fare! God Bless
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Wrong question!
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Just my 2c on this: https://youtu.be/3yr10-RYBbU
Sorry for the recording quality. Last edited by mattbn73; 08-20-2019 at 09:57 AM. |
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I have the same cheated/robbed/Fairy story. I started at zero, too, so I may understand your need to figure out the strumming, but I also get the comments that are saying to feel it and such.
I think it's helpful, at the stage you're in, to see it laid out and realize that there are a number of common patterns and once you feel comfortable with them, then you can just choose what's best for you and the song, even switching them and combining them in the same song. I think Andy's strumming course is a pretty good start on that. I also think taking the advice here and elsewhere to count the beats 1&2& etc is far superior to thinking DuDuuu.... It carries a lot more useful information and also carries over to other instruments where D U won't make sense at all. https://www.andyguitar.co.uk/online-lessons/ Most people, as you can tell from the comments, intuit the strum pattern and do what's natural for them, which is, I think, why it's a lot harder to copy someone else's pattern (for a popular song, for instance) than to make one yourself that goes well with the music and lyrics. If you watch a number of live performances of those songs, you'll most likely see that even the songwriter doesn't play it the same way all the time. Good luck!
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If you like The Beatles this is a excellent book for improving strum hand performance. Rather than a off the record transcription it can include single note lines, multiple strum patterns, percussive strums and rests all in one song.
https://www.halleonard.com/product/v...eature=GTRPLA& Another great resource for learning to feel time in a visual format. https://truefire.com/acoustic-guitar...playbook/c1220 |
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The confusion seems to arise from the difference between the hand movement and when the strings are actually struck. A lot of beginners see something like "DDUUD" and think that means one stroke per beat - even though it seems to indicate 5 beats! I don't thnk I've ever seen it explained (although I'm sure some sensible person somewhere must have), thats one's hand moves in a down-up fashion regularly the whole time. Like a pendulum or a metronome arm. A 4/4 bar is always DU-DU-DU-DU in that sense. (Unless it's very slow, in which case it will be DUDU-DUDU-DUDU-DUDU, because then the hand moves down on every 8th.) Strumming patterns - when they matter and usually they don't - then arise from which of those 8 movements actually hit the strings! Many of them miss. Occasionally all 8 will hit, but with varied dynamics - another important element of strumming rarely discussed. Even when beginners do understand that some strokes miss, they still get obsessed with thinking DDUUD or whatever, before they've got the hang of keeping a simple beat.
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As long as you always use a down stroke on the downbeat, everything comes out fine in the end. I find that I unconsciously move my right hand to a constant beat, regardless of whether the pick is touching the strings or not; the "missed" or "rest" strokes are just as important for making it sound fluid as the "hit" strokes are. This probably makes no sense to most players, but it's one way of thinking about it.
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As I said in the post before yours, though, it never seems to be explained that way, which is - IMO - why so many beginners have trouble. The other reason, of course, is they have yet to develop that "unconscious" right hand movement. Most teachers seem to take that for granted, because (like you and me) they are so used to it. But - as I know from my teaching - for most people it's not natural at all. It might seem a very simple principle, but I think beginners are distracted by all the other rhythmic elements of a song, especially melody. It's funny, because I'm sure most of them could dance to a piece of music properly, hearing where the beat is and moving to it. 99% of people, musicians or not, can clap successfully to the beat of a song (I mean a standard 4/4 pop, country, blues or rock song). The right arm strum movement is only an extension of that - marking the beat in the same way. And yet most beginners (not all) always get confused by it. Even if they get that point, the idea of a strum pattern will throw it right off - because they haven'i internalised it.
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Bruce Emery's Skeptical Guitarist Series of books does a very well-explained lesson on strumming in his book "Guitar from Scratch". Here is a link to his offerings.
http://www.skepticalguitarist.com Best, Jayne |
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You're seven years too late to answer his question.
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It's okay. We'll still probably be answering this question seven years from now.
Best, Jayne |