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Old 08-25-2011, 07:29 AM
tayloralf tayloralf is offline
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I was shopping for strings for my Taylor NS7 a couple of days ago and I picked up a pack of Daddarios Folk Nylon with 'Normal Tension' and a pack of Pro Arte 'Hard Tension'. When I read the back of the packaging, where they actually list the tension of each string, I noticed that the Folk Nylon with Normal Tension actually has higher tension than the Pro Arte 'Hard Tension'. Given that they are both Daddarios products, can someone help me understand the difference?
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:49 AM
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Its important to understand that classical guitar strings are not as standardized as steel string,,,, with steel , light , medium etc are pretty
much the same weather ghs,or
d'addario etc... with nylon string, one mfg normal tension might be another
mfg's hard tension, so the divisions are blurred...
for a Taylor NS,, the D'Addario proarte basses , hard tension are
as good as anything else (nobody takes ball end seriously)'ad
D'addario trebles sound dead and thuddy to my ear,, so i get
galli titanio treble sets.. I always bring up www.stringsbymail.com
not because they are any better or worse than other online string sources
but they have the largest selection of nylon string and they will break up
brands ,, you can order bass sets from one maker and another mfg treble set,
good luck,,
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Old 08-25-2011, 12:53 PM
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Thanks Rick! I noticed you said "nobody takes ball end strings seriously"...I have heard similar comments echoed by a few others on this forum. Being a Nylon string newbie, I found them to be so easy to install...for people who don't like them, is there something inherently lacking in their tonal quality...or is it more of a "tradition" kind of thing?
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:09 PM
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Thanks Rick! I noticed you said "nobody takes ball end strings seriously"...I have heard similar comments echoed by a few others on this forum. Being a Nylon string newbie, I found them to be so easy to install...for people who don't like them, is there something inherently lacking in their tonal quality...or is it more of a "tradition" kind of thing?
Lots of questions, but good ones,
original ball ends were introduced as "folk singer strings"
more often than not brass wound basses and black nylon trebles.
They were marketed to singers who liked the soft sound of nylon
so the voice stays prominent so they dont have much power and as easy to change as steel string... almost all true quality nylon strings are
tie,,, maybe a little tradition, but mostly because it is not hard to learn
how to tie them once you have a little practice, they make better
overall contact with the bridge, and sometimes ball ends fail, with
the ball breaking off... the ball ends are ok for cheap guitars or if it
is used to accompany a soft voice,but classical players seem to concider them a joke. now this is my opinion, so if others
have a different take on it, it would be interesting,
Rick
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