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Old 07-31-2015, 01:14 PM
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I do know the bridge is usually flatter with less arc on a fiddle as the fiddler will more often than not want to play two strings at once which is much more easily attained if the strings are closer to the same plane. I am sure this is what Bruce was referring to among other things in the set-up.

My knowledge comes from pretending to know how to play fiddle in a country band years ago, learned just enough to get by and get paid!!!
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Old 07-31-2015, 01:56 PM
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Actually, any two adjacent strings are on the same plane to an unimprovable degree on any violin. What the flatter bridge does is make less of an arc change required to change to the next pair of strings, or to catch one adjacent string for that matter. The compromise to the violin end of the equation is that as one goes "up the neck" with a flatter bridge, fingering a note can easily push the string below the plane of the two adjacent strings causing the bow difficulty in reaching the string one hope to hear. This is generally OK for a fiddler as the problem essentially does not exist in the open position.

Fiddles usually use steel string with a lower action than violins, which usually use perlon core strings.
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I made the linings from an Alaskan Yellow Cedar billet salvaged in BC about 40 years ago and stored in my shop ever since. The growth rings are so fine I cannot see them w/o magnification!

Here they are on the back I joined yesterday:


The C bouts will be lined once I can get to them:
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Are those laminated, or can the cedar bend at that thickness? What is the grain orientation?
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At 2mm this quartersawn cedar bent effortlessly.

With the ribs established, I cut out the back 3 mm bigger all the way around:



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I am really enjoying watching you make the violin Bruce...
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So am I. The violin family (I hope this doesn't sound too self-deprecating) has always struck me as real lutherie. Fascinating, Bruce!
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This makes me want to build one. Thanks Bruce.
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Oh yes, not scaled to a guitar. The looked about 1/4 thick to me, but I get it now.
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Yes, virtually all HHG construction.

Those sides are just 1.4mm, about .054", and I believe some would find that a bit too thick.

I really love the carving of the maple! I'd guess I am about 4 hours labor into this back carve:


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Yes, virtually all HHG construction.

Those sides are just 1.4mm, about .054", and I believe some would find that a bit too thick.

I really love the carving of the maple! I'd guess I am about 4 hours labor into this back carve:


that's tremendously cool.
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I've got the back carved to the point of scraping and fine tuning:


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Now the back is scraped to completion on the inside, and smooth on the outside, but will not be fully finessed til the channels are cut. The purfling is in.



Not entirely traditional here, I used the same flamed maple sandwich I feature on most of my guitars. It is the right size.
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On to the top, next time I work on this.
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Very interesting, Bruce! Thanks for sharing the violin and Archtop builds!
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