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Old 05-04-2022, 02:35 PM
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Default Loudbox Artist as a vocal monitor, how loud can it go?

Hey, I figured you guys might know more about this piece of gear :-) Do any of you use, or tried, Fishman Loudbox Artist as a vocal only monitor in a loud band? Let's say, classic or alternative rock types? Especially with a 31 band EQ inserted? Would it be enough for at least a rehearsal space, if not for gigging?

I'm new to amplifying acoustics, and I'm wondering if I could potentially get one for a double duty. I have two EV ZLX12p's, but I'm looking for something smaller and lighter. Also I need a setup for practicing guitar and vocals in not always the same space, so aside from dragging around one ZLX I also need a bunch of cables and extra equipment (I don't have a mixer, so I run a mic through a DBX 286 and acoustic through LR Baggs Para), and only now I have discovered that acoustic amps actually include an adjustable mic preamp and an acoustic guitar preamp, so that would be one portable box and few cables.

A bonus question: do any of you use an acoustic amp as a DI only?
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Old 05-04-2022, 06:36 PM
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I have used my LB Artist as a monitor, for vocals and guitar together. In this instance I use the DI out to our mains that were some distance (30 feet or more) from our position to cover a large outdoor venue. I've also used it directly behind me in a similar setup at another outdoor venue. The only difference in the latter was that it was pointed out toward the audience. Obviously had to watch for feedback from the vocal mic on that one. A long way to say 'yes'.
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Old 05-04-2022, 11:14 PM
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LB Artist is 120 watt amplifier with effects so it can handle being a monitor. If you need more watts than that you already have too much stage volume
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LB Artist is 120 watt amplifier with effects so it can handle being a monitor. If you need more watts than that you already have too much stage volume
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yea it would but,, just a powered monitor would be much cheaper than a loud box
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Old 05-05-2022, 12:19 PM
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It would for sure, but if you enjoy hearing yourself in the best light, an inexpensive powered speaker won’t give you the ability to do what the Loudbox does.
If all you need is a stage monitor, there are plenty of less expensive options for sure.
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It would for sure, but if you enjoy hearing yourself in the best light, an inexpensive powered speaker won’t give you the ability to do what the Loudbox does.
If all you need is a stage monitor, there are plenty of less expensive options for sure.
oh absolutely, they are voiced very nicely.

But where he mentioned "loud band" which makes me think the stage volume is probably aggressive enough where the nuances are just gonna fly right by him
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Okay, thanks for the answers, sounds very promising! I'm supposed to look at one scratched up Artist tomorrow, can't wait!

If Loudbox's specs are even halfway more honest than ZLX's, then I guess I can already put them up for sale.
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Old 05-05-2022, 04:51 PM
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Okay, thanks for the answers, sounds very promising! I'm supposed to look at one scratched up Artist tomorrow, can't wait!

If Loudbox's specs are even halfway more honest than ZLX's, then I guess I can already put them up for sale.
I recently got a used "scratched up" Artist... Sounds fantastic !
I used it the other day as a stage monitor for both guitar and vocals. Feed out to a Bose L1 Pro PA.

Nice amp and very versatile. Hope the one you see tomo is a keeper!
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Old 05-05-2022, 04:52 PM
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oh absolutely, they are voiced very nicely.

But where he mentioned "loud band" which makes me think the stage volume is probably aggressive enough where the nuances are just gonna fly right by him
In which case, I wouldn’t bother with the Loudbox either.
I played in a church band where the acoustic guitar was buried most of the time. Gave that up.
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Old 05-05-2022, 07:52 PM
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I’ve had a Loudbox Artist for quite a while - seems like 10 years or so. I mostly use it with a vocal mic to practice at home. I don’t think I’ve ever had it past 11:00 in a pretty large room. I think the vocal sound is great with a good mic. I’m hoping (and believe) I can hook up a powered speaker for a small event I’ve been asked to play this summer. The reverb sounds real good to me for vocals.
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Old 05-06-2022, 12:08 AM
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oh absolutely, they are voiced very nicely.

But where he mentioned "loud band" which makes me think the stage volume is probably aggressive enough where the nuances are just gonna fly right by him
By loud I mean at a level where the drummer plays a regular kit with sticks without artificially limiting themself. To me that is loud and would not come near without ear plugs.

If Loudbox is even capable of handling that setting, then it's already won, because then I have one convenient box for that and quieter scenarios too. I'm wanting to upgrade ZLXs to Yamaha's 10" models in the meantime. Had I chosen one i.e. DBR10 now, I'd still have to deal with carrying around all the extra bits for when I'm just practicing or performing by myself.
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Old 05-06-2022, 04:45 AM
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yea it would but,, just a powered monitor would be much cheaper than a loud box
Don't know how you figure.

My monitor is JBL PRX815. Will get as loud as you ever need. Sound great for both guitar and vocal.

Can be used at small to medium size gig, by itself. No main.

Just set behind you on the floor, set how you like, done.

No balancing main and monitor.

But IS more expensive than LB Performer.
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Old 05-06-2022, 05:47 AM
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Some unsolicited advice from an old guy: given the mention of loud stage volume, be careful to protect your hearing! I began wearing hearing aids in my early 50's due, in part, to not heeding my own advice.
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Old 05-06-2022, 06:02 AM
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Some unsolicited advice from an old guy: given the mention of loud stage volume, be careful to protect your hearing! I began wearing hearing aids in my early 50's due, in part, to not heeding my own advice.

Same here but my hearing aids came when I was in my late 30s. Some of mine was genetics, but loud stages are potentially part of it. Young people don’t listen to this advice on hearing protection however. Everyone’s ears are invincible until they’re not.
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