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Old 01-24-2019, 08:56 AM
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I have to question the design of the capo and how it would interfere with the ART technology.

The design of the Heritage with ART is the straight-pull design of the McKinney/Elliott which in my mind is the superior design, so the "pinch" method of the Performance 3 seems to be counter intuitive.
The goal would be to have the top of the capo push as straight down on the fretboard as possible. This is probably more easily assured with a yoke type capo, but is also achievable with a side mounted capo, given how many of them are in use, even among elite players. And I would think the ART technology might even increase the margin for error in terms of assuring that each string has equal pressure on it.

I’m happy enough with my Performance 2 that I’m looking forward to trying a Performance 3. It may be that a pinch type capo will never be AS good as an equivalent yoke type in terms of exerting equal pressure, but they already do it well enough for many of us, and this promised that much more of n improvement...
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:04 AM
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I've now got two P2's (I thought the first one got boosted but found it after replacing it). I really like the light weight and especially the mechanism. However, I find that it works best on my guitars when installed from below, rather than from above. The difference is a more resonant sound of the lower strings. I've found exactly the same thing with my Thalia capo. My Shubb capo doesn't care whether it's installed up or down. Like Barry (TBMan) I have no use for Kyser type clamp-on capos.

I have to ponder the necessity of the ART on the P3's for those with 15 degree or greater radii? I haven't really experienced much if any intonation issues with any of my better capos.

I have modified my P2's slightly by rounding the corners for those times when I install them from the top down (see photo). I wish G7th rounded them off at the factory. I'll have to check out the P3's when they come out, but
Nice aesthetic addition there, vb1. I like it.

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Looks like a March availability date.
If you are on the G7th newsletter list, you can get one in February.
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Isn't this some seriously overselling of the P2? The Shubb's tension is set by the player and in my experience gives a slightly brighter, slightly less muted sound, than the P2. (After spending a few years on AGF, I realize anything like a warmer sound is prized by a lot of players. I often find praised demos posted pretty soggy). The P2 nevertheless has the advantage of ease of use and is a help when I'm performing and want to quickly make capo changes.

And so . . . I've ordered the P3 hoping it gives the tuning advantage it promises. (Having just run into the tuning problem with a Shubb tonight.)
The key difference from the P2 is the ART system that adapts to changing fretboard radiuses. If you have one guitar and your capo works for that guitar, you don't need it. If you have multiple guitars then this one capo will adapt to the different fretboards. If you have one guitar with a compound radius, this is the only capo that will adapt all the way up the neck.
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Default QUESTION PLEASE!

First, THANKS for this announcement and review - love G7's..

My QUESTION:

I often use my capo to play "DROP-D IN E" - meaning..

I place the capo on "upside down", 2nd fret, over strings 1 - 5 ONLY, so I can play in D, but with the low 6th string still in E - for songs in E, but I play D, G & A (etc) instead of E, A & B7. Even my G7 Capos seem to still go sharp a little. (I HAVE purchased a different brand capo made just FOR this purpose, but it goes sharp too). Oh - my guitars ARE set up very very well, and otherwise intonation is spot on.

SO.. How does this new P3 function in this position? Good intonation, or still a little sharp?

Thank you in advance. MIKE O'
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Old 03-03-2019, 04:33 AM
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Default For anyone interested in what's going on inside...

We made a video of how it works.
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This looks cool. Reviewer should have tried other guitars to make a more definitive assessment.
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First, THANKS for this announcement and review - love G7's..

My QUESTION:

I often use my capo to play "DROP-D IN E" - meaning..


SO.. How does this new P3 function in this position? Good intonation, or still a little sharp?

Thank you in advance. MIKE O'
Hi Mike,
I do not own the P2, so I am comparing with the original Performance. And I threw Nashville and Newport to the test.


Martin 000-16GT with new Martin SP Lifespans 12-54. Polytune tuner on the headstock.

Short version: P3 version is OK for your purposes.

Longer version:
Original Performance
- acceptable contact with the neck
- heavier - does not feel so secure
- b and e string are a bit sharp


Performance 3
- acceptable contact with the neck (stays more open than P1 - see photo)
- feels more secure
- intonation OK


Nashville
- contact with the neck on the limit
- a string sharp, d and g ok, b flat, e ok

Newport
- lock lever collides with the neck, unable to attach correctly (could be ok on thicker neck)

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Expecting mine this coming week!
Awesome! I ordered a couple last Wednesday (I think it was Wednesday) when they were put on the website.

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Hi Mike,
I do not own the P2, so I am comparing with the original Performance. And I threw Nashville and Newport to the test.


Martin 000-16GT with new Martin SP Lifespans 12-54. Polytune tuner on the headstock.

Short version: P3 version is OK for your purposes.

Longer version:
Original Performance
- acceptable contact with the neck
- heavier - does not feel so secure
- b and e string are a bit sharp


Performance 3
- acceptable contact with the neck (stays more open than P1 - see photo)
- feels more secure
- intonation OK


Nashville
- contact with the neck on the limit
- a string sharp, d and g ok, b flat, e ok

Newport
- lock lever collides with the neck, unable to attach correctly (could be ok on thicker neck)

Regards

vlada
Where is the capo in relation to the fret?
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Old 03-03-2019, 05:01 PM
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We made a video of how it works.
Excellent video. Very innovative system. Makes total sense how it adapts to the curvature.
I have never used a G7th. So I am not familiar with the tension controls.
On your website:
Unique Tension Control
"By simply squeezing to attach and squeezing to release, the Performance 3 capo gives you complete and intuitive control over the pressure you place on your strings. Whether it's an acoustic or an electric, you can have confidence that you are in control and will keep your guitar in tune."
And on your video you explain the mechanism. Yet I am slightly unclear on how each of us apply the correct pressure? I use slightly heavier -than medium custom string gauges. How do I apply heavier pressure on the strings if I want to? As each of us have complete control.
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Mine's on order....even sprung for the gold one, but, hey, it's my birthday!

Most everything I do is with a capo, so I use them a lot. I have a Heritage with the new technology, looking forward to seeing this one in action with the same ART.
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Never owned a G7th capo before. But I may just have to get one now.
I can't wait for them to reach the north of the border.
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