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What a fabulous thread!!! As a fellow traveller on the home recording learning curve the discussion here is providing me with an expanded range of ideas with which to experiment. Here's a big thanks from me to all the contributors and especially to Anton for initially getting the thread going.
I agree. I certainly didnt expect it to go on for 7 pages. Thanks everyone. I think I have about exhausted all my options with my guitar and my mics. A friend is going to come over with some different guitars sometime soon, and I may move my rig downstairs just to see how that sounds. If its radically different Ill post some clips.
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I agree. I certainly didnt expect it to go on for 7 pages. Thanks everyone. I think I have about exhausted all my options with my guitar and my mics. A friend is going to come over with some different guitars sometime soon, and I may move my rig downstairs just to see how that sounds. If its radically different Ill post some clips.
Sounds like a plan. Do, if you do not already, wear good headphones and monitor live when moving around the mikes to find what sounds good to you. Probably closed back headphones for this particular use and set loud enough to predominate over the sound directly from the guitar. Try one of the mikes pointed somewhere south of the bridge instead of towards the soundhole (it is often a more distinct lower frequency sound coming from this area).
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In an interest of changing what is presented to the mics I have been playing with alaska picks for the past few days. Surprisingly they are not a huge adjustment. Ill try to post some clips tonight.
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Anton, is that what Steve Baughman has been using recently?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9bm4W_0rxQ

I see on most recent video clips that he is using some sort of fingerpicks, and wondered why: the acrylics are common but you don't see many fingerstylists wearing picks.

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Yea Steve is using Alaska picks and some sort of thumb pick. and I think maybe a different pick on his ring finger, Im not sure. I think he has said he tried arylics at one point and didnt like em. When I first met him he was using nails and flesh. He sounds good no matter what.
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Here's a much more recent video of Steve (I shot this for him in May of this year):




You can see his fingerpicks pretty clearly in the opening shot. He uses Alaska piks on 2 fingers and a regular plastic thumb pick on the 3rd finger. I know he's explained why, but I don't remember clearly.

By the way, in case this sounds ok, you can see the mic placement here pretty clearly

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Here's a much more recent video of Steve (I shot this for him in May of this year):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp5666QQqDA

You can see his fingerpicks pretty clearly in the opening shot. He uses Alaska piks on 2 fingers and a regular plastic thumb pick on the 3rd finger. I know he's explained why, but I don't remember clearly.

By the way, in case this sounds ok, you can see the mic placement here pretty clearly
A lot of these guys (as in this case) are using pickups. That alters the sound a lot, and usually (unless piezo) for a rounder, warmer sound. Tempting if I did not have such an anathema to plugging in.
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A lot of these guys (as in this case) are using pickups. That alters the sound a lot, and usually (unless piezo) for a rounder, warmer sound. Tempting if I did not have such an anathema to plugging in.
No pickup in this recording, Rick. Steve suggested recording a pickup track in case we needed it. I didn't use it in the mix - just the 2 stereo mics.
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No pickup in this recording, Rick. Steve suggested recording a pickup track in case we needed it. I didn't use it in the mix - just the 2 stereo mics.
Saw the cord, but if you left it out of the recording. You know what I mean about the pick up sound though, especially amoung the tapping crowd.
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Great arrangement and playing.

I notice that both mics appear to be pointing at the sound hole. Is that because they are out of the proximity effect because of distance?

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I'd say that's maybe a bit of an optical illusion. The mics are probably around 15-20 inches apart, maybe a foot from the guitar and turned slightly inward. I'd say one is mostly "aimed" at around the neck/body joint, and the other somewhere around the bridge. Pretty much my typical mic placement. You generally don't want to place a mic directly in front of the soundhole but having a mic tending in that general direction from off to the side isn't usually an issue. The directionality of mics isn't that specific - I could probably put them in that same spot and face them directly forward so they don't look like they're pointing at the soundhole without really affecting the sound very much.

I usually try to keep mics out of sight in my own videos, but sometimes they creep in. Here's one of mine with a fairly similar setup - same mics. A little harder to see the mics, but they show up along the bottom now and then



BTW, you asked about proximity effect vs soundhole, and that's really 2 different things, unrelated. You get proximity effect from a mic being close to the source, no matter what the source is.

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Here is my ADK pair using Alaska picks.

https://soundcloud.com/antonemery/ad...w-alaska-picks

I had kind of hoped it would sound alot different than flesh and nails, but comparing the two maybe not so much. With the picks its maybe a less dark on the high end.
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Here is my ADK pair using Alaska picks.

https://soundcloud.com/antonemery/ad...w-alaska-picks

I had kind of hoped it would sound alot different than flesh and nails, but comparing the two maybe not so much. With the picks its maybe a less dark on the high end.
Some clicking of the picks. You are probably better off without them. Just for an experiment, try a recording picking closer to the bridge (your thumb aligned with the bottom of the soundhole).
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I'd say that's maybe a bit of an optical illusion. The mics are probably around 15-20 inches apart, maybe a foot from the guitar and turned slightly inward. I'd say one is mostly "aimed" at around the neck/body joint, and the other somewhere around the bridge. Pretty much my typical mic placement.
Do like the sound of this recording and to clarify the tracks are panned hard left and right ?
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