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Old 03-09-2019, 09:17 AM
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Did anyone out there end up with one of the power post beetle infested fenders recalled back in the late 70's?

Back in the late 70's a load of "swamp" ash was not thoroughly kiln dried and a number of instruments were built with powder post beetles in the ash. They were quietly recalled but I always wondered if some still exist. The bug trails could be seen under a clear finish, painted not so much or wood dust in the pickup cavities.

On a side note "swamp" ash was a term given to the cheapest ash Fender could buy. It was not good enough for axe handles or furniture so it was almost worthless. Turns out it made good instruments and was lighter than top grade ash.
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:24 AM
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This story gives a whole 'nother shading to those "smuggler Telecasters."

Smuggler Tele
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Old 03-09-2019, 01:22 PM
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I never heard of that, interesting. Were there any noticeable tonal differences or was it just cosmetic? Surprising that they would be recalled if it was just cosmetic ... unless of course people started asking why.
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I never heard of that, interesting. Were there any noticeable tonal differences or was it just cosmetic? Surprising that they would be recalled if it was just cosmetic ... unless of course people started asking why.
Powder post beetles in time, if not dealt with, or don't die off on their own will turn the wood to dust. Not cosmetic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powderpost_beetle
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Good thing that wood was kiln-dried - if it was properly air-dried and seasoned there probably wouldn't have been anything left to build guitars with...
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Powder post beetles in time, if not dealt with, or don't die off on their own will turn the wood to dust. Not cosmetic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powderpost_beetle
So where there still live beetles in the wood?
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So where there still live beetles in the wood?
Yes......
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:10 PM
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This sounds like the old story about the Corvette that was parked in the woods and a guy died in it, so you could pick it up for a song.
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Interesting.

My Fenders are more recent and both are alder.
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naturally chambered body?
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So where there still live beetles in the wood?

Yes, but per some other threads recently, we should note that Eric Clapton played the solo not George Harrison.
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I never heard of that, interesting. Were there any noticeable tonal differences or was it just cosmetic? Surprising that they would be recalled if it was just cosmetic ... unless of course people started asking why.
I think the Smuggler Teles were mostly due to the weight of the wood they were getting. Some feel there an acoustic impact to it though.
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